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Subject: Groups - DITA TC Meeting Minutes 25 June 2013 uploaded

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Minutes of the OASIS DITA TC
Tuesday, 25 June 2013
Recorded by N. Harrison

regrets: Eliot Kimber, Thilo Buchholz

Standing Business
Minutes from last meeting:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00114.html (18 June, Harrison)
Proposed by Don, seconded by DickH, approved by TC

Subcommittee Reports:
None (Help SC for July 2)


1. DITA 1.3 progress
Progress between 17-23 June: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00121.html (Eberlein)
Update on current deadlines: http://chris.nitchie.com/trellotrack/#511a73d76ee890a51c0007ed
Trello Board: https://trello.com/b/gPKH0OcF
Kris reported; Eliot decommitted on 2, so we're now at 43 proposals.
Re: troubleshooting items - DavidH reported that the TechComm SC met yesterday (6/24), they're moving forward; Bob Thomas may want to report on this.

2. DITA 1.3 proposals, stage 2: http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/DITA_1.3_Proposals-stage2

Holding area for "Ready for discussion":

Proposal 13103: Deprecate @print and replace with more general mechanism (Kimber)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00057.html (DITA)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00058.html (PDF)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00059.html (HTML)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00060.html (Toolkit plugin, uploaded 17 June)

Proposal 13104: Enable keyref for and (Kimber)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00074.html (DITA)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00075.html (HTML)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00076.html (PDF)

Proposal 13105: Allow within lists (Kimber)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00067.html (DITA)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00068.html (HTML)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00069.html (PDF)

Proposal 13120: Vocabulary for publishing process details (Kimber)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00093.html (Kimber, implementation details not previously discussed)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00089.html (DITA)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00090.html (HTML)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00091.html (PDF)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00092.html (Toolkit plugin, uploaded 20 June)

Ready for vote: Voting options are "Yes," "No," "No objections," "I don't understand the proposal," and "I have reservations"

13059: Managing how metadata attribute values cascade and merge (Anderson)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00024.html (HTML)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00023.html (PDF)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00022.html (DITA)

Voting Resolts:
yes: Anderson, Bissantz, Boses, Day, Eberlein, Hamilton, Harrison, Helfinstine, Myers, Nitchie, Priestley, Warman
Proposal was moved by Robert, seconded by ChrisN, approved by TC

Ready for discussion:

13121: Reuse of structural specialization fragments (Priestley)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00065.html (HTML)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00064.html (DITA)
MP gave an overview; this will allow for reusing structural specializations. - It's not like domain reuse, but it follows the model for reusing domains in a specific point; there's a dependency on the reused specialization. Method for using the feature is to insert a refrence to the module to be reused in the document shell, but don't reference the entity file.
- 'The theory is simple, but all the models needed to be documented, so the proposal is big.'
- It introduces a change relative to generalization, a validation step to make sure generalization can go to whatever common ancestor exists. It's a place where what we have is currently underdocumented, and this has a bunch of wrinkles. 'Nothing needs to change that didn't need to change at 1.2; there were a number of places where the documentation didn't get updated to thoroughly describe 1.2 new functionality, and for this feature, that has to be fixed.'
- The proposal includes a number of suggestions on how to edit/correct areas of the spec that got modified in process of doing this proposal.
- In response to a question on specific use cases, Michael noted that the proposal directly addresses the troubleshooting model being developd by the TechComm SC. It also addresses issues in Lightweight DITA, even though that won't be part of 1.3, by allowing for lighter weight specializations.
- Don; wrt the use of conditional processing; if one of the sections get used somewhere that a child is required and it gets conditioned out, what happens?
e.g. if an
    in which you put a steps, and the steps got conditioned out...
    - MichaelP; if I include that is really including a specialized container module ; it doesn't span the whole content of steps across the domain.
    - Bob Thomas; This relly made a better troubleshooting model possible.
    - MichaelP; good to know it will be used.
    Resolution; vote on this proposal next week.

    3. DITA 1.3 proposals, stage 3: https://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/DITA_1.3_Proposals-stage3

    ActionItem; Kris will build a table to record proposals with their associated owner and reviewers, and send it out with information about the review process roles/responsibilities, as well as a request for all TC members not yet reviewing proposals sign up to do so.

    During the meeting, reviewers volunteered for the following proposals:
    13041: Facility for key-based, cross-deliverable referencing (Owner: Kimber; Reviewers: Nitchie, Tivy)
    13112: RelaxNG for DITA vocabulary (Owner: Kimber; Reviewers: Anderson)
    This proposal still needs one more reviewer
    13119: New domain for SVG support (Owner: Kimber; Reviewers: Bissantz)
    This proposal still needs one more reviewer

    Ready to assign reviewers:
    13010: Add a element (Owner: Kimber; Reviewers: TBD; reviewers assigned on X)
    13031: Add element for strikeouts (line-through) to highlighting domain (Kimber; Reviewers: Harrison and TBD; reviewers assigned on X)
    13044: Extend content model of to allow %basic.ph rather than %words.cnt (Kimber; Reviewers: TBD; reviewers assigned on X)
    13092: Allow within (Owner: Kimber; Reviewers: Doherty & TBD; reviewers assigned on X)
    13116: Add to the content model of and similar elements (Owner: Kimber; Reviewers: TBD; reviewers assigned on X)<br /> 13117: Add <xref> to the content model for <shortdesc> (Owner: Kimber; Reviewers: Bissantz & TBD; reviewers assigned on X)<br /> <br /> <br /> Reviewers assigned; not clear if proposal champion has provided them with a stage 3 proposal<br /> 13023: New <div> element (Owner: Kimber; Reviewers: Doherty & Day; reviewers assigned on 14 May 2013)<br /> 13027: Allow <draft-comment> in more places (Owner: Kimber; Reviewers: Harrison & Tivy; reviewers assigned on 14 May 2013)<br /> 13029: Allow <text> in more places (Owner: Kimber; Reviewers: Day & Hamilton; reviewers assigned on 14 May 2013) <br /> <br /> In review:<br /> 13118: New domain for Ruby markup (Kimber; Reviewers: Harrison and Hamilton; reviewers assigned on ?)<br /> 13111: MathML domain(Owner: Kimber; Reviewers: Anderson and Hamilton; reviewers assigned on 28 May 2013; materials made available ?)<br /> <br /> Review complete:<br /> 13089: learningObjectMap and learningGroupMap (Owner: Myers; Reviewers: Kimber & Hudson; review completed) <br /> <br /> <br /> Ready for vote: Voting options are "Yes," "No," and "Abstain"<br /> <br /> Trouble shooting proposals 13086, 13096, and 13098 (TechComm SC)<br /> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00042.html (DITA)<br /> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00043.html (PDF) <br /> <br /> Voting Resolts: <br /> yes: Anderson, Bissantz, Boses, Day, Eberlein, Hamilton, Harrison, Helfinstine, Myers, Nitchie, Priestley, Warman<br /> Proposal was moved by Bob Thomas, seconded by MikeB, approved by TC <br /> <br /> 13107: Refined scope and format defaults (Nitchie)<br /> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00032.html (DITA)<br /> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00033.html (HTML) <br /> <br /> Voting Resolts: <br /> yes: Anderson, Bissantz, Boses, Day, Eberlein, Hamilton, Harrison, Helfinstine, Myers, Nitchie, Priestley, Warman<br /> Proposal was moved by ChrisN, seconded by Robert, approved by TC <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 1. NEW ITEM: E-mail to dita-comment list<br /> Key processing support for "-dita-use-conref-target2 value (Jarno Elvirta, 24 June 2013)<br /> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00123.html<br /> Robert gave an overview; Jarno's question brings up the fact that for attribute processing wrt conrefs, attributes with the "-dita-use-conref-target" are treated as an exception case. 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