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Subject: Re: [dita] Re: Here is a new version of the Ruby proposal


Great. Thanks for the info.
JoAnn

JoAnn T. Hackos, PhD
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On 8/19/13 10:45 AM, "Eliot Kimber" <ekimber@rsicms.com> wrote:

>The discussion we had at last-week's meeting was that it's not a big deal
>to
>leave the Ruby proposal out of DITA 1.3 since we can provide it through
>other channels, such as DITA for Publishers, where I can maintain it in
>sync
>with the HTML5 design as it changes.
>
>Cheers,
>
>E.
>
>On 8/19/13 11:38 AM, "JoAnn Hackos" <joann.hackos@comtech-serv.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> As chair of the Translation Subcommittee, I sent this notice to several
>> members. Felix Sasaki from Japan responded to the Ruby proposal. I did
>>sent
>> this note to Eliot when I received it.
>> 
>> Would everyone please consider Felix's comments when we decide what to
>>do
>> about the ruby proposal.
>> 
>> Best,
>> JoAnn
>> 
>> JoAnn T. Hackos, PhD
>> President
>> Comtech Services Inc.
>> 710 Kipling Street, Suite 400
>> Denver, CO 80215
>> Joann.hackos@comtech-serv.com
>> 303-232-7586
>> 
>> CIDM will be hosting the Best Practices Conference in Savannah, Georgia
>> September 16-18. More information at:
>> http://www.infomanagementcenter.com/bestpractices/2013/index.htm
>> <http://www.infomanagementcenter.com/bestpractices/2013/index.htm>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
>> Date: Friday, August 9, 2013 5:48 AM
>> To: JoAnn Hackos <joann.hackos@comtech-serv.com>
>> Cc: Andrzej Zydron <azydron@xml-intl.com>, "Rodolfo M. Raya"
>> <rodolfo@heartsome.net>
>> Subject: Re: Here is a new version of the Ruby proposal
>> 
>> Dear JoAnn, all,
>> 
>> apologies for the late reply, due to holiday and travel. I shared this
>>within
>> the W3C i18n working group. There was no official review (again due to
>>absence
>> of people), but some people stated the same opinion: the DITA ruby
>>proposal
>> looks like aligned with the HTML ruby definition. But that Ruby
>>definition in
>> HTML5 is not stable yet, so it might be a good approach to postpone
>>Ruby in
>> DITA until final Ruby solution is created for HTML5.
>> 
>> To decide about this, it also might be relevant for you that the ePub
>> community working in IDPF and in W3C in the new digital publishing
>>interest
>> group
>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/
>> is also closely aligning with HTML5 in this area (and others). For ease
>>the
>> adaptation of generation workflows DITA > HTML or DITA > ePub3 (=based
>>on
>> HTML5), the alignment might help as well.
>> 
>> Below are some links about the work currently going on around the Ruby
>> revision. Let me know if you have more questions.
>> 
>> 
>> 1)
>> Requirements for Japanese Text Layout
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/
>> Particularly relevant sections include:
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#ruby_and_emphasis_dots
>> and
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#positioning_of_jukugoruby
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2)
>> HTML Ruby Markup Extensions spec
>> http://darobin.github.io/html-ruby/
>> 
>> 
>> 3)
>> Use Cases & Exploratory Approaches for Ruby Markup
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-ruby-use-cases-20120710/
>> latest editor's draft at http://www.w3.org/International/docs/ruby/
>> 
>> 4) No 3) references "Ruby extension markup"
>> http://www.w3.org/International/notes/ruby-extension/
>> which provides various examples of use of ruby that can be used as a
>>starting
>> point for testing and documenting
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Felix
>> 
>> 
>> Am 24.07.13 16:40, schrieb JoAnn Hackos:
>>> Eliot Kimber corrected the formatting.
>>> 
>>> JoAnn T. Hackos, PhD
>>> President
>>> Comtech Services Inc.
>>> 710 Kipling Street, Suite 400
>>> Denver, CO 80215
>>> Joann.hackos@comtech-serv.com
>>> 303-232-7586
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>
>-- 
>Eliot Kimber
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>"Bringing Strategy, Content, and Technology Together"
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>http://xmlpress.net/publications/dita/practitioners-1/
>



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