Groups - DITA TC Meeting Minutes 3 Sept 2013 uploaded

[Nancy Harrison<nharrison@infobridge-solutions.com>]

        Submitter's message
        Action Items from minutes:
- 13029 (allow text everywhere) needs to be documented in the 1.3 release notes
- @outputclass missing from some subject scheme elements; bug fix needed for 1.3

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Minutes of the OASIS DITA TC
Tuesday, 3 September 2013
Recorded by N. Harrison

regrets:   none (after first 5 minutes, had 100% TC attendance)


Standing Business
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Minutes from last meeting: 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita/download.php/50502/minutes20130827.txt (27 August, Nancy Harrison)   
Proposed by Kris, seconded by Adrian, approved by TC


Subcommittee Reports
DITA Adoption TC:
Joannreported that the Adoption SC is just getting ready to release a new feature article written by Deb Bissantz and Jackie Samuels on 'Roles and Responsibilities'.  The SC will be voting on final approval of the article at the next meeting and will then publish it.  They're also expecting to have a webinar at the end of Oct. to present the paper.
In addition, there are a number of other feature articles that they're planning, and they hope to have another webinar by the end of the year

Announcements:
	none


Business
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1. DITA 1.3 progress
Progress: 26 Aug - 1 September https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00005.html (Eberlein, 3 September)
Update on current deadlines: http://chris.nitchie.com/trellotrack/#511a73d76ee890a51c0007ed
Trello Board: https://trello.com/b/gPKH0OcF
Kris; total proposal count is down to 39, with withdrawal of 'ruby' proposal.


2. DITA 1.3 proposals, stage 2: http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/DITA_1.3_Proposals-stage2

Ready for vote: 

Proposal 13060: enhanced resourceid element
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201308/msg00107.html (HTML, uploaded 26 August)
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201308/msg00108.html (DITA, uploaded 26 August) 
Stan moved, Joann 2nded, TC approved 

Yes votes:		Anderson, Bissantz, Boses, Buchholz, Day, Doherty, Eberlein, Hackos, Hamilton, Harrison, Helfinstine, Kimber, Magliery, Myers, Nitchie, Priestley, Warman

Ready for continued discussion:

Proposal 13102 release management
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201308/msg00074.html (HTML, uploaded 23 August)
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201308/msg00075.html (DITA, uploaded 23 August)
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201308/msg00076.html (PDF, uploaded 23 August)
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201309/msg00001.html (Amber Swope, 1 September 2013) 
[Continued discussion]
- Robert; We still have the issue with XNAL, bringing in so many elements; we didn't have resolution last week.
- Kris; TomC, can you review the points Amber raised?
- Joann; she looked at the original list of requirements from the medical device industry. During Tom's discussions with Eliot, they decided that some of her requirements were too specific to that industry, so they're allowed as specializations from 'data' element. Do we need to note that in the proposal?
- Kris; we don't need to make those changes, but we do need to let Amber know why those requirements aren't there in the proposal.
- Joann; I've already replied to her privately.  For example, we decided that wrt the ability to put 'track-change' in the comment, the SC thought it was too complex at this time.
- Eliot; wrt her question about change-started/change-completed; we need to make the intention for those elements very clear in the stage 3 [and 1.3 spec] docs; i.e., what does it mean for a change to be started/completed?
- Joann; TomC, why did you set up the change-started/change-completed like that?
- TomC; These elements were modeled on bookchange-history; I assumed that's what people wanted, but I'm not sure;  we personally don't use them.
- Nancy; Erik Hennum and I originally took the model for those elements from DocBook, but I can't remember where DocBook got them...
- Eliot; wrt Robert's issues with XNAL, I'm sympathetic. An alternative is to create specific elements for person and organization.
- Robert; It comes down to whether we'll ever need the XNAL substructure for those elements; I've gotten a sense that it's overkill.
- Joann; two simple elements is what we had originally, but Eliot suggested reusing XNAL.
- Eliot; At this point, I'd go with 1-2 simple elements rather than XNAL.
- Joann; If we make that change, wouldn't that require another discussion next week?
- Eliot; I'd be ok with voting on it with a note in the minutes about the change.
- Robert; But I would like to know the names/content models of the elements before we vote on them.
- TomC; they were change-person, change-organization
- Nancy; so will those changes appear in a new version of the Proposal?
- TomC; I can do that; are those the only changes?
- Eliot; you need to remove the XNAL pieces and declarations from wherever they are in this plugin.
- TomC; I can do that.
Resolution; TC will vote on this next week.  


3. DITA 1.3 proposals, stage 3: https://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/DITA_1.3_Proposals-stage3

Stage 3 review process: Responsibilities of proposal owner and reviewers
     https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00126.html (Eberlein, 25 June) 

a. Reviewers needed
Proposal 13104: allow keyref on object
   https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201308/msg00093.html (Kimber, 25 Aug) 
- added Dick

b. Eliot's many proposals
Eliot reported:  On 13111 (new domain for MathML); he had a meeting with all the reviewers, including Deb, Robert, and the folks from Design Science, and they came to agreement on what the proposal should be.  On 13112 (RelaxNG for DITA), he's also close to having that proposal ready for reviews.

c. Ready for discussion
13116:

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