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Subject: Re: [dita] Key scopes and topicsetref

On 4/14/2016 1:19 PM, Eliot Kimber wrote:
the behavior of
topicsetref with regard to keys is sufficiently established by the
existing language for format="ditamap" references to topicrefs.
If this is the case, then:
  1. Does Rob Frankland's use case degrade gracefully to this use of standard mapref/map notation in lieu of using the topicset* specialized notation?
  2. If so, should the TC consider deprecating this notation in the DITA 2.0 timeframe? (along with providing commensurate best practice advice to users like Rob on how to use mapref to achieve whatever benefits the topicset* markup was intended to provide?)
  3. Either way, the discussion does suggest that "deferred processing" is a generally useful but under-specified use case. I think that deferred processing (and to some extent, dynamic processing) should be lightly advised on, if at all, since implementations may differ widely for reasons that have nothing to do with "imperative processing" (to characterize, for example, why PDF or static, CD-ROMable HTML builds can't reasonably use deferred processing semantics--other than by providing hooks for who knows what). And for the same reason, specializations that support a particular implementation of deferred processing should be left to those applications--we don't want to enshrine them as standardized elements in the standard, imperative-oriented model. Which leads back to using "imperative vs deferred" as a consideration for deprecating topicset*, and using that rationale to assess future proposals for additions to the standard.
(And lest it not be obvious, I am of the opinion that the DITA 1.x processing model's imperative output mindset may still be subtly influencing how we think about future of the DITA franchise.)
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