Groups - DITA TC Meeting Minutes 18 December 2018 uploaded

[Nancy Harrison<nharrison@infobridge-solutions.com>]

        Submitter's message
        ActionItems:
1. Kris will respond to dita-comment mail about 'Multiple examples in a strict task'.
2. Eliot will look into learningAggregationsTopicrefConstraintMod.xsd issue (discrepancy between 1.3 Errata .01 and .02) raised by Tom.


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Minutes of the OASIS DITA TC
Tuesday, 11 December 2018
Recorded by Nancy Harrison
link to agenda for this meeting:	
https://wiki.OASIS-open.org/dita/PreviousAgendas


Attendance:
Robert Anderson, Deb Bissantz, Carsten Brennecke, Bill Burns, Stan Doherty, Kris Eberlein, Carlos Evia, Nancy Harrison, Alan Houser, Scott Hudson, Eliot Kimber, Chris Nitchie, Dawn Stevens,  


Business
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1. Roll call
        Regrets: Tom Magliery, Keith Schengili-Roberts, Eric Sirois 


2. Approve minutes from previous business meeting:
     04 December 2018: 
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201812/msg00012.html (Harrison, 13 December 2018) 
moved by Kris, 2nd by Bill, approved by TC
	11 December 2018:
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201812/msg00013.html (Harrison, 13 December 2018) 
moved by Kris, 2nd by Bill, approved by TC


3. Announcements:
        New TC members: None 
Carlos; a book about LwD was published yesterday, will be available from Amazon today.
[congratulations from TC members to Carlos!]


4. Action items
        21 August 2018
            Kris & Robert: Perform the best edit of multimedia topics that they can do in time available; due 18 September 
        11 September 2018
            Kris: Review conversation with Joe Pairman, e-mails about metadata, and TC discussion in late 2017/early 2018; summarize to TC 
        30 October 2018:
            Kris: Submit request to publish committee note (COMPLETED)
            Kris: Open GitHub issue for committee note PDF issue regarding formatting (some URLs are not blue) on coverpage 
        13 November 2018
            Eliot: Test refactoring of grammar files
            Spec editors incorporate changes from DITAweb review 
[no change to any items]


5. Review of DITA 2.0 proposal deadlines
        https://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/DeadlinesDITA2.0 
[reminder to those with 1/8
- Kris; Robert, do you have any response to the reviews on your chunking proposal?
- Robert; I haven't had a chance to look at them; waiting for review from Eliot
- Eliot; I'll have my review done before end of year.


6. DITA 2.0 stage two proposals
        Vote
            None
            None 
        Initial discussion
            Issue 16: titlealts improvements
                https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201812/msg00016.html (Nitchie, 17 December 2018) 
Chris gave overview; the original requirement was to add alternate titles to maps. Since bookmap plays games with titles, and defines all the various alternate titles as specializations of 'ph', whenever a processor needs to display a map title, it has to figure out what it is.  Since topics already have titlealts, I thought that would be good to add to maps as well. Someone suggested also allowing titlealts to topicrefs as well; the proposal tries to allow for alternate titles to both maps and topics in a consictent way.  Navtitle and searchtitle would become specializations of a new titlealt element; titlllealt would be child of titlealts.
The proposal suggests making titlealt info in a map take precedence over actual topic titles by default. User can specify a series of titlealt elements under parent titlealts. Proposal would make it easier for new users of DITA, but will impose a fairly heavy cost to migrators, which will make it somewhat controversial.
- Eliot; changing the navtitle/locktitle behavior would be a 'service to the world'; it will benefit everyone in long run. 
- Robert; I'm worried about the migration cost, but it would make DITA much more intuitive to new users.
- Eliot; and the migration is fairly straightforward.
- Robert; yes, we're already doing away with @locktitle, so there's not a big additional migration cost, but there would be a big mental adjustment for authors.
- Kris; as a side question; does anyone have data on how many editors actually retrieve titles directly from topic? I know Oxygen does, and so does SDL's CMS.
- Chris; Arbortext does not; puts it into navtitle.
- Kris; Ixiasoft strips off navtitle @s by default; it's an interesting question.
- Bill; I think Xmetal generates a navtitle from title.
- Kris; right, that wasn't the case in earlier releases, but it is now. 
- Deb; Vasont just applies navtitle.
- Kris; i will be doing reviews of CMS's for Simple A; if anyone thinks of useful questions,  just let me know.


7. dita-comment list
        Multiple examples in a strict task
            https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita-comment/201812/msg00002.html (Wurst, Wolf-Dieter, 17 December 2018) 
Kris; I will respond to this
***ActionItem: Kris will respond to this comment.


8. New item: learningAggregationsTopicrefConstraintMod.xsd: to be or not to be?
        https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201812/msg00014.html (Magliery, 13 December 2018) 
- Kris; Tom noticed this. There's a discrepancy between the files in Errata .01 and .02; we could add this to a list of errata .03 items, though I really don't want to have an errata .03, or we can fix it in 2.0. 
- Eliot; it's not worth an .03, but I'll look into it.
***ActionItem: Eliot will look into this.
- Kris; the only reason to do another errata to 1.3 would be for something earthshaking.


11:28 am ET close 


        
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Submitter: Ms. Nancy Harrison
Group: OASIS Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) TC
Folder: Meeting Notes
Date submitted: 2018-12-18 09:01:20