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Subject: Groups - DITA TC Meeting Minutes 21 January 2020 uploaded
- From: Nancy Harrison<nharrison@infobridge-solutions.com>
- To: <dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:17:55 +0000 (UTC)
Submitter's message
ActionItems:
1. Kris will ping Dawn on her proposal for diagnostic element, and also update Carlos's proposal with new dates.
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Minutes of the OASIS DITA TC
Tuesday, 21 January 2020
Recorded by Hancy Harrison
link to agenda for this meeting:
https://wiki.OASIS-open.org/dita/PreviousAgendas
Attendance:
Deb Bissantz, Carsten Brennecke, Bill Burns, Stan Doherty, Kris Eberlein, Carlos Evia, Nancy Harrison, Scott Hudson, Gershon Joseph, Chris Nitchie, Keith Schengili-Roberts, Eric Sirois, Jim Tivy, Frank Wegmann
Business
========
1. Roll call
Regrets: Zoe Lawson, Dawn Stevens
2. Approve minutes from previous business meeting:
07 January 2020
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202001/msg00006.html (Harrison, 10 January 2020)
moved by Kris, 2nd by Bill, approved by TC
3. DITA 2.0 stage three proposals
[no updates]
4. DITA 2.0 stage two proposals
Vote
#292 simpletable update
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202001/msg00025.html (Eberlein, 20 January 2020)
Carlos moved, 2nd by Deb
[Carlos expressed appreciation to Kris for her help]
Voting results:
yes votes: 12 (Deb Bissantz, Carsten Brennecke, Bill Burns, Stan Doherty, Kris Eberlein, Carlos Evia, Nancy Harrison, Scott Hudson, Gershon Joseph, Chris Nitchie, Keith Schengili-Roberts, Eric Sirois)
no votes 0
[Reviewers for next stage: Bill, Carsten]
5. DITA 2.0 terminology as glossary topics
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202001/msg00015.html (Doherty, 14 January 2020)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202001/msg00016.html (Hudson, 14 January 2020)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202001/msg00017.html (Doherty, 16 January 2020)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202001/msg00019.html (Eberlein, 20 January 2020)
- Stan; we have great glossary technology, we should use it in the spec. Scott and I will standardize what we think it should be and submit it to TC.
- Scott; we use glossaries in my company's doc, so hoping to uncover what we might need for 2.0.
- Stan; we'll come back to TC with an outline of what we propose; goal is to keep identical content.
- Kris; from viewpoint of someone who's been deep in the spec, it might sound like a simpler task than it may turn out to be. There are terms in the spec that can be clearly/crisply defined, and other terms that really need a whole concept topic to describe.
- Stan; well, we'll figure it out as we go along; maybe the glossary entry for a complex term needs to be a sentence or two with a link to a concept topic? We'll bring our findings back to the TC as we go along.
- Kris; I have some topics I generated and put into a fairly 'gnarly' glossgroup topic, that holds the start of a laundry list of my thoughts on the subject. In general, coming back to the TC and spec editors with a proposed list of terms sounds very reasonable.
- Stan; fine
- Scott; ok
- Kris; also, please get the IBM style guide, which is what we use in editing the spec; it has good content on glossaries, not from DITA point of view, but very useful.
- Stan; that would be style vs. content.
- Kris; it's available on kindle and from deadtree... Any comments?
- Deb; I'd be interested in working on it
- Stan; I'll set up a meeting of the 3 of us and we'll work out a plan.
6. Review of DITA 2.0 proposal deadlines
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/DeadlinesDITA2.0
Stage two
(Stevens) New diagnostic element for troubleshooting (https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dita/issues/316)
14 January 2020: Proposal to reviewers (Hudson, Harrison)
- Kris; this has slipped...
(Evia) Column/row spanning in simpletable (https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dita/issues/292)
22 October 2019 05 November 2019 15 November 2019 (./) 10 December 2019: Submit to reviewers (Anderson, Kimber)
07 January 2020: Initial discussion by TC
- Kris; do we have a new date?
- Carlos; I'll let you know next week.
Stage three
(Nitchie) Loosen attribute specialization rules (https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dita/issues/15)
TBD
(Nitchie) Add titlealts elements to map (https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dita/issues/16)
10 December 2019: Revised stage two proposal to TC
- Kris; any updates?
- Chris; I'll plan to get back into this sometime this week; can give you an update next week.
- Kris; just before the break, you sent email to list clarifying issues, and Eliot responded. Anything new from that?
- Chris; we talked about splitting titlealts and linktext proposals, seems like a good idea.
- Kris; I half volunteered to take on linktext proposal, but health issues may impede that.
(Schengili-Roberts) Strong and em elements (https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dita/issues/107)
27 January 2020: Proposal to reviewers (Doherty, Evia)
- Keith; this is on track.
***ActionItem: Kris will ping Dawn on her proposal for diagnostic element, and also update Carlos's proposal with new dates.
7. Spec work completed
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/editorialWorkCompleted
- Kris; no updates; as soon as Robert is settled into his new job, we'll go back to work, and interact with glossary team.
8. Approved DITA 2.0 proposals
Working draft #07
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201912/msg00054.html (Eberlein, 18 December 2019)
Tally of approved proposals now included in first topic of PDF
[no updates]
9. Action items
[updates and changes to items only - see agenda for complete list]
13 November 2018
Eliot: Test refactoring of grammar files; due 15 Aug COMPLETED
18 December 2018
Eliot: Investigate issue re earningAggregationsTopicrefConstraintMod.xsd; due 15 Aug COMPLETED
28 May 2019:
Chris: Look at draft-comment in spec WD03, section 8.2.2.19, page 210 IN PROGRESS
19 November 2019
Zoe: Clean up SVN, with guidance from Kris COMPLETED
03 December 2019
Gershon Joseph: Summarize previous discussions about #28: New publication. Content in minutes and GitHub project card.
10 December 2019
Robert: Handle updates regarding @encoding and nested fallback element for coderef, svgref, and mathmlref elements COMPLETED
17 December 2019
Gershon: Consider where in troubleshooting topic we might want to add draft-comment, if there are any
- Kris; Gershon, when might we see action on your 2 items?
- Gershon; I should be able to work on them next week, so move dates one month out to end of Feb.
- Kris; great.
Other discussion:
- Carlos; I have a weird request; for a DITA person who speaks Spanish; I doing an intro to a panel in Spanish, and we need a moderator.
- Kris; what about Noz Urbina?
- Gershon; or Julio?
- Carlos; Julio's Spanish isn't at that level, but Noz could do it, if he's available...
- Kris; post to dita-users?
- Carlos; what about Rudolpho? And I'm wary about being too specific in a posting.
- Kris; the posting doesn't have to be exactly what it's about with all the details; you might turn up unexpected people.
- Carlos; good idea...
- Kris; the agenda is out for DITA/NA; how many TC members will be present? who's presenting at DITA/NA? at Journeys?
[Kris, Gershon, Scott, Stan, Carsten, Deb, Robert, & Bob Thomas are all presenting at one or the other.]
- Kris; I'm presenting a 'look back at DITA' and moderating the 'overview of 2.0' panel.
close at 11:30
-- Ms. Nancy Harrison
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