RE: [docbook-apps] Glossary sorting in Japanese

[Akagi K <akobayashi@valista.com>]

Thanks David for giving me the details.  I amended the glossary.xsl as you
said (and nothing else) and it sorted the glossary terms according to their
sortas attribute set in Hiragana. Wonderful!

FYI, the Katakana terms without the sortas values are sorted to appear
before any of the terms with the Hiragana sortas values. 

Which version of docbook_xsl will the debugged glossary.xsl be in? 
We are using docbook_xsl_1.72.0 and for the moment we may just replace the
glossary.xsl. 

Many Thanks also to Jirka for enabling this in the first place.
Akagi


David Cramer (Tech Pubs) wrote:
> 
> Actually, the glossentry element already takes a sortas attribute:
> http://docbook.org/tdg/en/html/glossentry.html
> but it appears that the xsls aren't currently using it. You should be
> able add the Hiragana or Katanakana versions to the sortas on the
> glossentry and then do this in the templates from glossary.xsl in your
> customization layer (using the same concat trick from autoidx-kosek.xsl
> and autoidx-kimber.xsl): 
> 
> <xsl:sort lang="{$language}" select="translate(concat(@sortas,
> glossterm[not(parent::glossentry/@sortas) or parent::glossentry/@sortas
> = '']), &lowercase;, &uppercase;)"/>
> 
> Instead of the current:
> 
> <xsl:sort lang="{$language}" select="translate(glossterm, &lowercase;,
> &uppercase;)"/>
> 
> This line appears more than once, so change them all. This is a bug in
> the xsls, so please log it at sourceforge if it's not there already. I
> would love to see the kosek and kimber approaches applied to the
> glossary too for grouping glossterms into glossdivs in the same way
> indexterms are automatically grouped into indexdivs.
> 
> 
> Also, I'm surprised by the need to translate all the characters to the
> same case. Is that really required?
> 
> David
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Akagi K [mailto:akobayashi@valista.com] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:10 PM
>> To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Glossary sorting in Japanese
>> 
>> 
>> Further to the glossary sorting issue in Japanese, we are 
>> using the id for glossentry and notice that they DO GET 
>> SORTED, but in an arbitrary manner.
>> Is this a fluke, or is there some sort order that is 
>> influencing it? What might that be, so that I can edit it?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Akagi 
>> 
>> 
>> Jirka Kosek wrote:
>> > 
>> > Akagi Kobayashi wrote:
>> > 
>> >> The Kosek method can be used successfully to sort Hiragana and 
>> >> Katanakana characters (I'm sure). I have added those after the 
>> >> alphabet to the sort list. Attaching the test xml fyi.
>> > 
>> > I haven't received file, but I would be happy to add it 
>> into standard 
>> > distribution. You can send it to me off-list.
>> > 
>> >> Before I look into the Kimber method - I have an idea for sorting 
>> >> words in kanji.
>> >> 
>> >> Could you tell me whether using the glossentry id= link 
>> might work? 
>> >> This is explained in Chapter 16 - Linking to a glossary entry 
>> >> http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/LinkToGlossary.html
>> >> So the kanji word will be set as the glossterm; and its reading in 
>> >> hiragana will be set as the glossentry id.
>> > 
>> > You can do this, but stylesheets doesn't support sorting of 
>> glossterms 
>> > based on id values, so you will have to customize stylesheets.
>> > 
>> > I think that adding sortas attribute to glossterm is the 
>> right solution.
>> > If time permits we will discuss this request during today's 
>> DocBook TC 
>> > meeting.
>> > 
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>> > 
>> >  
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