RE: [docbook-apps] Glossary sorting in Japanese

["David Cramer" <dcramer@motive.com>]

I just committed the fixes to svn, so it will be in the next release or
in the snapshot xsls immediately. In addition to the sortas thing, I
noticed that it would missort terms where there is leading whitespace
(e.g. <glossterm> foo</glossterm>), so I added a normalize-space() to
deal with that. 

David 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Akagi K [mailto:akobayashi@valista.com] 
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:59 AM
> To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [docbook-apps] Glossary sorting in Japanese
> 
> 
> Thanks David for giving me the details.  I amended the 
> glossary.xsl as you said (and nothing else) and it sorted the 
> glossary terms according to their sortas attribute set in 
> Hiragana. Wonderful!
> 
> FYI, the Katakana terms without the sortas values are sorted 
> to appear before any of the terms with the Hiragana sortas values. 
> 
> Which version of docbook_xsl will the debugged glossary.xsl be in? 
> We are using docbook_xsl_1.72.0 and for the moment we may 
> just replace the glossary.xsl. 
> 
> Many Thanks also to Jirka for enabling this in the first place.
> Akagi
> 
> 
> David Cramer (Tech Pubs) wrote:
> > 
> > Actually, the glossentry element already takes a sortas attribute:
> > http://docbook.org/tdg/en/html/glossentry.html
> > but it appears that the xsls aren't currently using it. You 
> should be 
> > able add the Hiragana or Katanakana versions to the sortas on the 
> > glossentry and then do this in the templates from 
> glossary.xsl in your 
> > customization layer (using the same concat trick from 
> > autoidx-kosek.xsl and autoidx-kimber.xsl):
> > 
> > <xsl:sort lang="{$language}" select="translate(concat(@sortas,
> > glossterm[not(parent::glossentry/@sortas) or 
> > parent::glossentry/@sortas = '']), &lowercase;, &uppercase;)"/>
> > 
> > Instead of the current:
> > 
> > <xsl:sort lang="{$language}" select="translate(glossterm, 
> &lowercase;, 
> > &uppercase;)"/>
> > 
> > This line appears more than once, so change them all. This 
> is a bug in 
> > the xsls, so please log it at sourceforge if it's not there 
> already. I 
> > would love to see the kosek and kimber approaches applied to the 
> > glossary too for grouping glossterms into glossdivs in the same way 
> > indexterms are automatically grouped into indexdivs.
> > 
> > 
> > Also, I'm surprised by the need to translate all the 
> characters to the 
> > same case. Is that really required?
> > 
> > David
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Akagi K [mailto:akobayashi@valista.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:10 PM
> >> To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
> >> Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Glossary sorting in Japanese
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Further to the glossary sorting issue in Japanese, we are 
> using the 
> >> id for glossentry and notice that they DO GET SORTED, but in an 
> >> arbitrary manner.
> >> Is this a fluke, or is there some sort order that is 
> influencing it? 
> >> What might that be, so that I can edit it?
> >> 
> >> Thanks
> >> Akagi
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Jirka Kosek wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > Akagi Kobayashi wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >> The Kosek method can be used successfully to sort Hiragana and 
> >> >> Katanakana characters (I'm sure). I have added those after the 
> >> >> alphabet to the sort list. Attaching the test xml fyi.
> >> > 
> >> > I haven't received file, but I would be happy to add it
> >> into standard
> >> > distribution. You can send it to me off-list.
> >> > 
> >> >> Before I look into the Kimber method - I have an idea 
> for sorting 
> >> >> words in kanji.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Could you tell me whether using the glossentry id= link
> >> might work? 
> >> >> This is explained in Chapter 16 - Linking to a glossary entry 
> >> >> http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/LinkToGlossary.html
> >> >> So the kanji word will be set as the glossterm; and its 
> reading in 
> >> >> hiragana will be set as the glossentry id.
> >> > 
> >> > You can do this, but stylesheets doesn't support sorting of
> >> glossterms
> >> > based on id values, so you will have to customize stylesheets.
> >> > 
> >> > I think that adding sortas attribute to glossterm is the
> >> right solution.
> >> > If time permits we will discuss this request during today's
> >> DocBook TC
> >> > meeting.
> >> > 
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