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Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Re: DocBook Website / style of the generated HTML

Just an observation, and that is: one reason why I like to do my website in 
XML is that I don't have to worry about the HTML. I know that DocBook 
Website will produce some kind of HTML that browsers will render. The 
appearance is controlled by the simple CSS, which I might change at any 
time. My website might look a little different in different browsers but I 
don't worry about that either.

I like the simplicity.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jochen Hayek" <Jochen+oasis-open@Hayek.name>
To: <docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:09 AM
Subject: [docbook-apps] Re: DocBook Website / style of the generated HTML

>>>>>> Sina K Heshmati <sina@khakbaz.com> writes:
>> "Jochen Hayek" <Jochen+oasis-open@Hayek.name> said:
>>>>>>>> Sina K Heshmati writes:
>>>> "Jochen Hayek" said:
>>>>>>>>>> Sina K Heshmati writes:
>>>>>> "Jochen Hayek" said:
>>>>> (2) Does is make sense, to let a designer improve the CSS for my 
>>>>> purpose?
>>>> It depends on what you mean by improving CSS.
>>> Achieving something as neat as BeagleBytes.com as opposed to the 
>>> "default
>>> Website".
>> Could you not just grab the style [3] of that website and apply them to 
>> yours?
> I see, SinDoc, you are a rather smart guy!!
> That's exactly, what I planned to do short-term,
> actually I wanted to let that get done by a friend,
> but she is not as DocBook-minded as I am, so that looks a little 
> difficult.
> Artist, a little main-stream web-designer, ...
>> The CSS customization to this website doesn't seem to be very deep.
>> I mean, the markup is the same table-rich HTML.
>>>> If you want to generate a table-less HTML layout,
>>>> given your DocBook Website source files and website layout,
>>>> you might want to take a look at SilkPage [2].
>>> I am personally not really in a hurry regarding table-less HTML.
>> Did you not like the look-and-feel of SilkPage instances.
>> FWIW, SilkPage has other themes too but they're not equally elaborate.
>> The 'ala' XSL theme is the best, AFAIK.
> I read about SilkPage before,
> thank for the pointer anyway.
> But I decided to be patient and be focused on DocBook Website itself.
>>>>> (2) Will Website2 invalidate the CSS used for "Website-2.6", because 
>>>>> it changes
>>>>> structure and/or naming (conventions)?
>>>> Yes, indeed!
>>> So investment in nicer (temporary) CSS should be rather restrictive.
>> It depends on your preferences as to the final look-and-feel of your 
>> website.
>> Once you define a target,
>> then there will definitely be a reasonable solution that takes your 
>> toward your goal.
> Well, pointed out, dear friend!
> You earned yourself beer and pizza,
> if you ever make it to Berlin or if we meet anywhere else.
>> Kind regards,
>> SinDoc
>> [3] http://www.beaglebytes.com/stylesheet.css
> Yes!!!
> Good man!
> Thanks for your response!
> How can we speed up the re-implementation? :-)
> Kind regards from Berlin,
> Jochen
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