Groups - DocBook Publishers SC modified

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DocBook Publishers SC has been modified by Scott Hudson

Date:  Wednesday, 05 September 2007
Time:  12:00pm - 01:00pm PT

Event Description:
The teleconference phone number is +1-877-643-6951. The participant
code is 31804277#. International access is 302-607-2017. Attendance at teleconferences is restricted to members(and prospective members) of the subcommittee.

The DocBook SC uses irc://freenode/dbpub for additional
conference features, such as exchanging URIs, providing out-of-band
comments, and other aspects of the teleconference, so please join us
there if at all possible.

Agenda:
1. Roll call
2. Accepting the minutes of the previous meeting.
3. Next meeting: 3 Oct 2007
4. Review of the agenda.
5. Review of open action items

6. Membership issues

7. Proposed Roadmap
  a. Identify elements that should be part of Core DocBook
  b. Identify potential "modules" for elements currently part of DocBook
     but belonging to a particular domain.
  c. Recommend Core DocBook and proposed modules to DocBook TC
  d. Identify general publishing needs not currently met by DocBook
  e. Identify additional specific domains within publishing industry that
     may need specific modules.
  f. develop RFEs from identified needs
  g. develop DocBook v5.0 schema enhancements from RFEs
  h. submit schema enhancements for approval to DocBook TC

8. Discuss roadmap items f and g. Please come prepared to discuss 
general publishing needs and specific domains. Primary discussion topic: Journals
Please review the email from Dave Pawson and the following URLs:
http://dtd.nlm.nih.gov/publishing/tag-library/2.3/FullArticleSamples/bmj_sample.txt
http://dtd.nlm.nih.gov/publishing/tag-library/2.3/x-00x0.html

Also, discuss findings and walkthrough schema modularization:
http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/PublishersMinimalElements

Minutes:
1. Roll call

Present: Gary Hoffman, Norm Walsh, Keith Fahlgren, Scott Hudson, John Pedersen, Dick Hamilton
Regrets: Jim Earley

2. Accepting the minutes of the previous meeting.

# Minutes were not yet prepared from the last (Aug 1) meeting, so not approved.

3. Next meeting: 3 Oct 2007

# No regrets yet.

4. Review of the agenda.

# Added agenda item to discuss RFE passed down from TC:  1722935  DocBook 5:
Adding proofreader in @class for othercredit?

5. Review of open action items

# Unclear what these were from last time, certainly we intended to investigate
testing RelaxNG customization.

6. Membership issues

# Please become an OASIS member so you can participate in meetings.

7. Proposed Roadmap

  a. Identify elements that should be part of Core DocBook

# Currently on Wiki at http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/PublishersMinimalElements

  b. Identify potential "modules" for elements currently part of DocBook
     but belonging to a particular domain.

# New column on the big Wiki table showing proposed modularization structure:
# http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/PublishersMinimalElements

  c. Recommend Core DocBook and proposed modules to DocBook TC
  d. Identify general publishing needs not currently met by DocBook
  e. Identify additional specific domains within publishing industry that
     may need specific modules.

# Continuing

  f. develop RFEs from identified needs

# Continuing

  g. develop DocBook v5.0 schema enhancements from RFEs

# Part of agenda item 8.

  h. submit schema enhancements for approval to DocBook TC

# later




8. Discuss roadmap items f and g. Please come prepared to discuss
general publishing needs and specific domains. Primary discussion topic: Journals
Please review the email from Dave Pawson and the following URLs:
http://dtd.nlm.nih.gov/publishing/tag-library/2.3/FullArticleSamples/bmj_sample.txt
http://dtd.nlm.nih.gov/publishing/tag-library/2.3/x-00x0.html


Scott mentioned the  National Library of Medicine (NLM) ,
which wraps "a chemical expression, reaction, chemical equation, etc". The group
discussed whether it would be best to mark that up as an image.

Scott also raised the issue of marking up both poetry and dialog (like in a
screenplay) with NLM's . A definition list doesn't work very well, nor
does . we develop a separate module for this (it could become
quite complex, especially as it includes stage instructions and such). Perhaps
the TEI module could be added in the same way as MathML? On the other hand, we
could simply follow the simpler model in NLM, if we only have a simple use-case.

The discussion moved on to , which we've been discussing as an alternative
wrapper to 'book' for groups of s.  isn't attractive because the
name is misleading, but a more specific name is hard to pick: 'magazine',
'journal', 'newsletter',  and 'periodical' all are reasonable. John P. notes (as
he has in the past) that they're moving _away_ from a container element, as they
are publishing more articles separately, rather than in larger groups. There's
still no consensus on articles and wrappers.

Keith adds that folks might consider considering new values for article/@class
(currently: faq, journalarticle, productsheet, specification,
techreport, and whitepaper)




Also, discuss findings and walkthrough schema modularization:
http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/PublishersMinimalElements


Scott and Jim Earley tried a customization of the DocBook RelaxNG markup
(splitting into more files). Norm is prepared to accept most of Scott & Jim's
changes for the next CR (6), but is skeptical about the group of 'product'
stuff.  should be kept separate from elements like .





# Added to Agenda
# b. 1722935  DocBook 5: Adding proofreader in @class for othercredit?

The othercredit element is used as a part of metadata in the info group. The
full TC had gotten a RFE to add one specific value (proofreader) to the list
enumerated by the @class value, but the TC felt that we should develop a more
complete list.

Roles discussed on Mailing list:

indexer
proofreader
coverdesigner
interiordesigner
illustrator
reviewer
typesetter

Scott notes that the TC is looking for the most commonly used job titles, rather
than every possible value. Norm agrees, mentioning that he'd like to see the
list stay below about a 20 values, if possible. Keith asks if some of the
existing "editor" values (technicaleditor, productioneditor, copyeditor)
in the current @class list might better move to the 'editor' element.




Action Items:
* John P, others to query internally to find more @class values for othercredit.
Please send findings to list prior to 19 September 2007.
* Gary H. & John P. to research dialog markup samples
* All to consider best options for top-level 'article' structure (or just
keeping ) and come back at next meeting with a recommendation.
* Keith & Scott to continue work on RNC customization

Thanks to Keith for taking the minutes!

This event is one in a list of recurring events.
Other event dates in this series:

Wednesday, 01 August 2007, 12:00pm to 01:00pm PT
Wednesday, 03 October 2007, 12:00pm to 01:00pm PT
Wednesday, 07 November 2007, 12:00pm to 01:00pm PT
Wednesday, 05 December 2007, 12:00pm to 01:00pm PT

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