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Subject: DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes 19 November 2003
| DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 19 Nov 2003
| =======================================================
|
| The DocBook Technical Committee met on Wednesday, 19 Nov 2003 at
| 05:00p EST (02:00p PST, 22:00GMT, 22:00BST, 23:00CEST, 07:00JST+,
| 02:30a India+) for 90 minutes.
|
| Agenda
|
| 1. Roll call
Paul Grosso
Dick Hamilton
Larry Rowland (prospective)
Nancy Harrison
Michael Smith
Robert Stayton
Steven Cogorno
Scott Hudson
Norman Walsh
Regrets:
Mark Johnson
Absent:
Jeff Beal
Paul Boos
Meeting called to order at 17:05 EST.
| 2. Accepting the minutes[1] of the previous meeting
Accepted.
| 3. Next meeting: 16 Dec 2003.
Correction: next meeting is Wednesday 17 Dec 2003.
We meet on Wednesdays now.
Action: Bob to fix the OASIS calendar dates.
| 4. Review of the agenda
No changes.
| 5. Review of open action items
|
| a. Norm to follow-up on RFE 562343: <packagename> element
Continued.
| b. Norm to write better documentation for option/optional
Continued.
| c. Norm to describe how the prototype works and how it was
constructed.
Continued.
| d. Mike to provide a better proposal for choicelist markup.
Continued.
| e. Mike to reconsider the annotation problem and post his thoughts.
Continued.
| f Norm to post his stylesheet that attempts to convert existing
DocBook
| documents to the "V5" style markup.
Continued.
| g. Norm to add bibliolist to next agenda.
Completed.
| h. Norm and Bob to coordinate secretarial duties.
Completed.
| i. Norm to make firstterm and glossterm isomorphic.
Completed.
| j. Dick to propose more general solution for caption in mediaobject.
Continued.
| k. Steve to propose generalizing programlisting to the list.
Continued.
| 6. Action reminders? (Bob)
Action: Bob to send out action item reminders one week
before each meeting.
| 7. Improved citations proposal (RFE 810932).
Much discussion of detailed proposal submitted by
Markus Hoenicka, Bruce D'Arcus, and Peter Flynn.
Markus attended the call and answered questions.
Markus: improvements in citations are needed in academic
uses of DocBook. Most info for a citation is in the
biblioentry elements in the bibliography, but additional
info for a specific citation needs to be captured there.
They propose a new biblioref element, which is like xref
but has addtional bibliographic attributes and processing
expectations.
Steve: what about xref or link?
Markus: new attributes are specialized for bibliographic links.
Norm: why new attributes on citation as well?
Markus: a single citation can include multiple bibliorefs,
or no biblioref.
Nancy: suggests not putting renderas on citation, but
for those rare cases use role.
Norm: putting human readable text in attributes like
caption is bad practice for internationalization reasons.
Mike: biblioref could contain a caption element.
Markus: or PCDATA, which would be the caption.
Paul: caption is to be deprecated in future DTDs.
Steve: suggests using a preprocessor to convert
raw citations to cooked citations.
Markus: Peter Flynn is doing something like that with XSLT.
Norm: suggests trying to meet 80% of the need. Caption
could be part of the citation text.
Norm: proposes adding biblioref with no caption attribute.
It would be allowed wherever xref and link are allowed.
<!ELEMENT biblioref - - EMPTY>
<!ATTLIST biblioref linkend IDREF #REQUIRED
endterm IDREF #IMPLIED
unit NMTOKEN #IMPLIED
start NMTOKEN #IMPLIED
stop NMTOKEN #IMPLIED
renderas (full|author|year|title) #IMPLIED
>
Markus: will discuss this proposal with other list
members before the next meeting.
Action: Bob to add this item to the next meeting's agenda.
The Committee wishes to thank Markus for attending
the call and answering questions.
| 8. DocBook V4.3 CR1
Norm proposed designating the current DTD as 4.3CR1
and starting the 30 day comment clock.
Approved.
Action: Norm to publish 4.3CR1.
Action: Norm to produce a simplified 4.3CR1.
| 9. DocBook V5.0 (RELAX NG)
No news.
| 10. Bibliolist (from bibliography in refentry RFEs 742624 and 686733).
| Considered by TC in 2001 [2].
| Norm's proposal from 2001 [3].
| Recent TC discussion in August 2003 [4].
| Norm proposed bibliolist [5], one positive response from list.
|
| <!ELEMENT bibliolist (blockinfo?,
| (%formalobject.title.content;)?,
| (biblioentry|bibliomixed)+)>
|
| With common attributes.
| To be allowed anywhere other sorts of lists are allowed.
Norm: reluctant to add a new element. Adapt bibliography
instead? It is already allowed in many places, including
sections.
Nancy: bibliography should remain as a hierarchical
element like a chapter.
Bob: if we had had bibliolist, it probably would have been
used instead of bibliography in section and the like.
Proposal: adopt Norm's bibliolist element, and permit in
same locations as other lists. Approved.
Won't be added to version 4.3.
The committee expressed a desire to
remove bibliography from sections in V5,
and to consider more broadly the usage of
glossary, lot, and similar hierarchical elements.
| 11. Review of Requests for Enhancement
No time. Next meeting to set aside more time for RFEs.
Action: Bob to add agenda item to reconsider the policy
for backwards incompatible changes.
Meeting adjourned at 6:30 EST.
|
| To browse a specific RFE, enter the URL (on one line):
|
| http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&;;
| group_id=21935&atid=384107&aid=XXXX
|
| 543064 JavaObject tag
| 675024 form, script, applet support
| 698026 cannot embed <superscript> within <guibutton>
| 702185 add procedure as child of para
| 711815 Tagging for subtler breaks or "pauses" within a chapter
| 742373 Splitting Segmented List
| 752632 Color control of CALS table element
| 798616 syntax="" or notation="" needed for code listings
| 828720 'spacing' attr. for 'variablelist'
|
|
| The following RFEs are awaiting action items
|
| 413389 Enhance METHODNAME and VARNAME (Norm, generic linking)
| 431411 RFE 70: add generic linking capability (Norm)
| 522552 Add title attribute to <ulink> element (Mike, annotations)
| 541444 caption in mediaobjectco (Dick)
| 562343 <packagename> element (Norm)
| 565637 Associate non-inline image with link (Norm, generic linking)
| 574880 Add annotation element (Mike)
| 613293 Generalize programlisting (Steve)
| 623524 (Re)Consider "choicelist" markup (Mike)
|
| The following RFEs are identified as V6.0 or later
|
| 531851 Remove inline person name elements
| 532088 Remove RevHistory from qandaentry
| - ---
|
| [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/200310/msg00082.html
| [2] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/200108/msg00067.html
| [3] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/200108/msg00081.html
| [4] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/200308/msg00037.html
| [5] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/200309/msg00061.html
Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
bobs@sagehill.net
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