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Subject: DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 15 November 2006
DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 15 November 2006 ============================================================= The DocBook Technical Committee met on Wednesday, 15 November 2006 at 05:00p EST (02:00p PST, 22:00GMT, 22:00BST, 23:00CEST, 07:00JST+, 03:30a India+) for 90 minutes. 1. Roll call Present: Nancy Harrison, Scott Hudson, Gershon Joseph, Jirka Kosek, Larry Rowland, Bob Stayton, Norman Walsh Regrets: Paul Grosso Absent: Steve Cogorno, Gary Cornelius On leave: Dick Hamilton 2. Accepted the minutes[1] of the previous meeting. 3. Next meeting: not 20 December 2006 The Committee will take December off and next meet on 17 January 2007. 4. Review of the agenda. Added item 10a. 5. Review of open action items a. Norm to write task/topic email to initiate discussion on the docbook list. COMPLETED. b. Scott to write email to initiate discussion of other namespace elements in info on the docbook list. COMPLETED. 6. XML 2006 conference. Several members will be attending, but not enough for quorum. An informal dinner gathering Wed night for those that can attend. Contact Norm if interested. 7. OASIS IP policy. The Committee voted unanimously to adopt the IPR policy of RF on Limited Terms. ACTION: Norm to follow up with Mary at OASIS. 8. info in html tables (Scott) Scott proposed adding info element to DocBook tables that use HTML markup in order to associate metadata with the tables. In RelaxNG, this would be the non-title version of info. The CALS table markup allows info, but that table model is interpreted as allowing extra elements outside of tgroup. HTML tables don't use tgroup. Two concerns emerged: - editing tools that work with HTML tables but not extra elements - maintaining compatibility with HTML tables. Jirka also mentioned an alternative of using annotations to associate metadata with HTML tables. No concensus on adding info. A straw poll had 5 in favor and 2 abstentions. Absent member Paul is known to oppose it. The Committee decided to postpone a decision and gather more information about potential problems if info were added. ACTION: Scott to ask the mailing list of info as first child of HTML table creates problems. 9. Extend charter to include commercial publishing [2] Scott's suggestion would require modifying the Committee charter. Norm expressed concern about DocBook's already large size, and not having any grounds for rejecting proposals for new elements, which risks unlimited growth. Bob pointed out that commercial publishing covers many different types of documents. The Committee was favorable to the idea of sanctioning customizations of DocBook without changing core DocBook. Not clear what form such sanctioning might take. Nancy suggested forming offical subcommittees for that purpose, with one DocBook member, and other members from other OASIS committees. Perhaps there could be several subcommittees for several domains. Bob said the DocBook TC should make sure that DocBook supports such customizations. Other ideas included: - Perhaps call them "variants" instead? - Supporting periodicals as regularly published technical notes. - Perhaps creating a smaller core DocBook with technical publishing elements as one extension. ACTION: Scott to solicit interest on creating DocBook variants for commercial publishing. 10. Unfinished business: RFE 1097183: Allow Task as a sibling of sections Postponed until the next meeting. 10a. Candidate Release for DocBook V5 The Committee approved creating Candidate Release 1 of DocBook V5. This version removed the beta designation, but comes before Committee Specification. There may be several CRs. ACTION: Norm to create DocBook V5 CR1. 11. Review of Requests for Enhancement To browse a specific RFE, enter the URL (on one line): http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&; group_id=21935&atid=384107&aid=XXXX 1097183 Allow Task as a sibling of sections Postponed. 1575537 allow markup from other namespaces in info There were only positive comments when Scott asked the list. The processing expectation is to not render these elements. The RNG pattern would be any element in a non-DocBook namespace. The Committee approved this change for V5 CR1. 1588693 Allow ackno in book In DocBook 4.5, ackno has inline-level content and can only appear at the end of article. Scott expressed a need for an acknowlegements element in books, as a sibling to chapters. The proposal is to remove the ackno element, add an acknowlegements element, and give in a content model like that of dedication. Also allow the element in article. A straw poll showed 6 in favor and 1 opposed (Norm thinks it is a bad idea). Another consideration was a more general element that could use class="dedication" and class="acknowledgements" and perhaps others. Would need a good element name. ACTION: Scott to post the proposal to the mailing list for feedback and perhaps element name suggestions. 1589139 please allow inlineequation in label The Committee wasn't clear about the request. ACTION: Larry to ask the submittor to clarify. Meeting adjourned at 6:30 EST. ----- [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-tc/200610/msg00025.html [2] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-tc/200610/msg00031.html Bob Stayton Sagehill Enterprises DocBook Consulting bobs@sagehill.net
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