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Subject: Correction: [docbook-tc] DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 16 July 2008


Another correction to the minutes of 20 August 2008: Corey Leong also 
attended the meeting.  Apologies for omitting him from the attendance list.

Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
bobs@sagehill.net


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Stayton" <bobs@sagehill.net>
To: "DocBook Technical Committee" <docbook-tc@lists.oasis-open.org>
Cc: <docbook@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:46 AM
Subject: [docbook-tc] DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 16 July 
2008


> DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 16 July 2008
> =============================================================
>
>
> The DocBook Technical Committee met on Wednesday, 16 July 2008 at
> 05:00p EDT (02:00p PDT, 21:00GMT, 22:00BST, 23:00CEST, 06:00JST+,
> 02:30a India+) for 50 minutes.
>
> Agenda
>
> 1. Roll call
>
> Present: Scott Hudson, Jirka Kosek, Larry Rowland,
> Bob Stayton, Norman Walsh.
>
> Absent: Gary Cornelius, Jim Earley, Keith Falhgren,
> Patricia Gee, Paul Grosso, Dick Hamilton, John Hanratty,
> Gershon Joseph, Dave Pawson, John Pederson
>
> A quorum of voting members is present.
>
> 2. Accepted the minutes[1] of the previous meeting.
>
> 3. Next meeting: 20 August 2008
>
> No regrets so far.
>
> 4. Review of the agenda.
>
> Add:
>  10a.  Gershon's email about a DocBook Adoption Committee.
>  10b.  New meeting time.
>
> 5. Review of open action items
>
>  a. Bob to organize TDG reading after names are fixed.
>     CONTINUE
>
>  b. Norm to review Committee Spec comments so far.
>     COMPLETED.
>
>  c. Norm to resond to poster of Ruby request regarding W3C ITS.
>     COMPLETED.
>
>  d. Dick to ask mailing list if localinfo is in use for olinks.
>     COMPLETED.
>
>  e. Norm to assist in getting the Publishing Subcommittee spec published.
>     COMPLETED.
>
>  f. Bob to add to next agenda whether to pursue 5.0 as an
>     OASIS standard.
>     COMPLETED.
>
>  g. Dick and Jim to investigate using a map for modular DocBook.
>     CONTINUE
>
>  h. Norm to review his understanding of 1912756 Add @scope to index.
>     COMPLETED.
>
>  i. Bob to add an agenda item to discuss the policy for
>     backwards compatible changes.
>     COMPLETED.
>
>
> 6.  DocBook 5.0 standards update
>
> Only one comment was submitted during the review period for
> the DocBook 5.0 Committee Specification.  The one comment
> was regarding adoption of Ruby and related internationalization
> features.  This will be handled as a separate I18N extension
> of the DocBook 5.0 schema.
>
> ACTION: Norm to follow up with Mary about finalizing the Committee Spec.
>
> ACTION: Norm to add a set of schemas incorporating the W3C ITS standard 
> [2] that includes Ruby.
>
>
> 7.  Policy for backwards compatible changes.
>
> Norm proposed a new policy [3].
> We will discuss this on the mailing list and add it to
> the next meeting's agenda.  This would be written up
> as a policy document and posted on the Committee's
> OASIS webpages.
>
> ACTION: Bob to add to next agenda.
>
> ACTION: Norm to write up a policy document.
>
>
> 8.  Submit as OASIS Standard: DocBook 5.0 or 5.1 ?
>
> The Committee debated whether to submit 5.0 as an OASIS Standard,
> or make some pending small changes and submit 5.1. If we do 5.1,
> we would have to go through the Committee Spec phase again.
> The group concluded that many people and vendors are waiting for
> an official version 5 standard, and the changes in 5.1 are
> minor.
>
> Norm moved we submit 5.0 as an OASIS Standard.  Seconded, and
> approved unanimously.
>
> ACTION: Norm to work with Mary to facilitate 5.0 as
> an OASIS Standard.
>
> 9.  Publishing Subcommittee report.
>
> Still working to get the spec published.  Norm will help.
>
>
> 10.  Olink localinfo attribute (Dick Hamilton)
>
> Dick's query to the mailing list about usage of the localinfo
> attribute on olinks got no response.  Bob suggested that
> it could be useful, and leaving it does no harm.
> The group decided to not take any action to remove it.
>
> 10a.  Gershon suggested that perhaps we consider a
> DocBook Adoption Committee to promote the usage of
> DocBook.
> ACTION: Bob to add to next agenda.
>
> 10b.  Changing the meeting time.
> Since we no longer have a Japanese participant, and the
> current time is inconvenient for European participants,
> Norm proposed changing the time from 5pm EDT to 1pm EDT.
>
> ACTION: Norm to query committee members by email about
> the suggested time change.
>
> 11.  Review of Requests for Enhancement
>
>    To browse a specific RFE, enter the URL (on one line):
>
>      http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&;;
>      group_id=21935&atid=384107&aid=XXXX
>
>    These RFEs postponed until after 5.0 release
>      1097183  Allow Task as a sibling of sections
>      1679665  Add better support for modular documentation  1722935 
> DocBook 5: Adding proofreader in @class for othercredit? 1770787  Rename 
> firstname and surname
>    RFEs to be considered 1907003  biblioid content model too broad
> This would be a backwards incompatible change and discussion has
> been postponed.
>
>      1912756  Add @scope to index
> Norm withdrew this request after reviewing setindex.
>
>      1998852  Provide a mechanism to group parameters
> The committee recognized the need for such grouping, and
> suggested using the group element with different content
> models in RelaxNG.
> ACTION: Norm to write content models for consideration.
>
>      2017771  New common attribute: DB
>
> The committee felt that the condition attribute could handle
> this, as it is a general purpose effectivity attribute.
> The committee is reluctant to add more specialized effectivity attributes. 
> Rejected.
>
> -----
>
> [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-tc/200806/msg00003.html
> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/its/
> [3] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/200807/msg00029.html
>
> Bob Stayton
> Sagehill Enterprises
> bobs@sagehill.net
>
>
>
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