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Subject: RE: [docbook-tc] DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 19 October 2011


Wasn't there supposed to be an action for me
about providing multimedia examples?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: docbook-tc@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:docbook-tc@lists.oasis-
> open.org] On Behalf Of Bob Stayton
> Sent: Thursday, 2011 October 20 17:29
> To: DocBook Technical Committee
> Cc: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [docbook-tc] DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 19
> October 2011
> 
> DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 19 October 2011
> =============================================================
> 
> The DocBook Technical Committee met on Wednesday, 19 October 2011 at
> 01:00p EDT for 60 minutes.
> 
> 1. Roll call
> 
> Present:
> Paul Grosso, Dick Hamilton,
> Scott Hudson, Jirka Kosek, Larry Rowland,
> Bob Stayton, Norm Walsh
> 
> Regrets:
> Nancy Harrison, Gershon Joseph
> 
> 2. Accepted the minutes [1] of the previous meeting.
> 
> 3. Next meeting: 16 November 2011
> 
> 4. Review of the agenda.
> 
> Add item for Simplified and other supplemental schemas.
> 
> 5. Review of open action items
> 
>   a.  Bob to update his XSL stylesheet for building a
>       DocBook document from an assembly.
>       COMPLETED
> 
>   b.  Bob to add contributed Publisher's stylesheets to the XSL
> distribution.
>       CONTINUED
> 
>   c.  Norm to post Simplfied DocBook 5.0 to docbook.org.
>       CONTINUED
> 
>   d.  Gerson to propose content models for result element(s)
>       (RFE 3163121).
>       CONTINUED
> 
>   e.  Norm to modify the assembly documentation to reflect
>       that automatic renderas not be part of the assembly
>       specification itself.
>       COMPLETED
> 
>   f.  Larry to write documentation on creating a navigational
>       hierarchy from an assembly.
>       CONTINUED
> 
>   g.  Norm to propose XInclude enhancements to W3C.
>       COMPLETED
> 
>   h.  Norm will clarify the resolution of
>       RFE 3107140 aconym expansion inline
>       CONTINUED
> 
>   i.  Larry to respond to the RFE 3383019
>        DocBook Music Notation
>       CONTINUED
> 
>   j.  Scott to reconvene the Publishers Subcommittee
>       to discuss the RFEs.
>       CONTINUED
> 
>   k.  Norm to add change allowing tag elements to next to 5.1.
>       Correction:
>       Norm to add change allowing tag elements to nest to 5.1.
>       CONTINUED
> 
> 
> 6.  DocBook assembly
> 
>  a. allow structure to behave like module (see Bob's email [2])
> 
> Larry suggested that if structure element behaves like
> module, then do we need structure?  Norm also would like
> a comparison of structure and module if we make this change.
> 
> ACTION: Bob to report on differences between structure and module.
> 
> Larry suggested two alternate methods of achieving the equivalent
> of resourceref on structure.
> 
>   i. Use a child module with contentonly to reference a top-level
> resource.
> 
>   ii. Use a single child module that contains all other content, so
>       structure does not contribute an element.
> 
> ACTION: Bob and Larry to prepare samples of the same content
> implemented
> in these different approaches.
> 
>  b. other issues?
> 
> Bob requested that people try out the XSL stylesheets he prepared
> for processing assembly. He pointed out that the kit includes a
> stylesheet to disassemble an existing DocBook document into
> topics and an assembly to make it easy to get started.
> 
> 
> 7.  Extended XLink support (see Norm's email [3])
>     Continued from last meeting.
> 
> To fix the current lack of support for extended XLinks in DocBook 5,
> Norm made two proposals:
> 
> a.  In 5.1, allow XLink attributes in more places, and remove
> restrictions
> on current attributes.  APPROVED
> 
> ACTION: Norm to implement in schema, subject to
> final review and approval by TC.
> 
> b.  In 6.0, modify extendedlink element in backwards-incompatible way.
> 
> ACTION: Norm to announce changes to extendedlink to be made in 6.0
> 
> 8.  Transclusion in DocBook.
> 
> Norm wrote a blog report on his thoughts. [4]
> 
> The current thinking is that this feature is not DocBook-specific,
> so a solution from the W3C XML Core Working Group is preferable.
> Norm suggests adding attributes in different namespace on
> XInclude to handle processing options. These would be removed by
> current XInclude processing. He suggests that they be allowed
> to pass through in some way for processing downstream.
> The WG will be reviewing this at their next meeting.
> 
> Decide on element vs. attribute (see [5]).
> Other issues?
> 
> The current proposal for DocBook-specific transclusion elements
> is on hold for now.
> 
> 8b.  Supplemental schemas
> 
> Norm will produce a DocBook 5 version of Simplified DocBook,
> and this will be an official TC product.
> 
> Slides and website are not official.
> Norm wrote new slides stylesheet.[6]
> Dick and Dave Pawson created a DocBook 5 website schema.
> 
> ACTION: Norm to prepare slides and website schemas in 5.0.
> 
> 
> 9.  Review of Requests for Enhancement
> 
>     To browse a specific RFE, enter the URL (on one line):
> 
>       http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&;;
>       group_id=21935&atid=384107&aid=XXXX
> 
>     RFEs to revisit for 6.0
>       1907003  biblioid content model too broad
> 
>     RFEs under discussion
>       2820947  Ability to transclude text
>       3035565  Allow sections at any level
>       3107140  aconym expansion inline
>       3156768  <result> tag
>       3383019  DocBook Music Notation
>       3384939  db.xlink.type.attribute is too narrowly defined
> 
>     New RFEs
>       3406169  allow multiple procedure elements in a task element
> 
> Larry spoke in favor of this proposal.  APPROVED.
> 
> ACTION: Norm to allow procedure+ in task in DocBook 5.1.
> 
> ACTION: Bob to add agenda item for next month:
>             multimedia support in DocBook 5.
> 
> -----
> 
> [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-
> tc/201108/msg00012.html
> [2] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-
> tc/201108/msg00018.html
> [3] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-
> tc/201108/msg00001.html
> [4] http://norman.walsh.name/2011/10/03/transclusion
> [5] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-
> tc/201108/msg00007.html
> [6] https://github.com/docbook/xslt20-
> stylesheets/tree/master/xslt/slides
> 
> Bob Stayton
> Sagehill Enterprises
> bobs@sagehill.net
> 
> 
> 
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