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Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: Fw: E-mail in Author tag


On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 05:32:51PM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote:
> / Jorge Godoy <godoy@conectiva.com.br> was heard to say:
> | On Wed, Jan 26, 2000 at 04:35:46PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> | > 
> | > I use :
> | > 
> | >    <author>
> | >       <firstname>St&eacute;phane</firstname>
> | >       <surname>Bortzmeyer</surname>
> | >       <affiliation>
> | >         <orgname>The Debian Project</orgname>
> | >         <address><email>bortzmeyer@debian.org</email></address>
> | >       </affiliation>   
> | >     </author>
> | 
> | But, isn't this e-mail address the organization's address? There
> | should be the possibility to use the e-mail element right in the
> | author scope, not in the affiliation's scope. 
> 
> Well, I'm not sure I agree (though I feel your pain :-). The direct
> children of author are all parts of the author's name and an email
> address isn't really part of a name.

Why not considering these children author's information? If thinking
this way, it would also allow including <address> tags in there. It
would be _author's_ personal data. Anything related to his employees
would come in the <affiliation> tags. 

>   <digression>
>   And if it is part of your name, that's because you've legally
>   changed your name and made it your, um, probably surname.

I disagree.
It's specified in the document:

<author>
  <firstname>Jorge</firstname>
  <surname>Godoy</surname>
  <address><email>godoy@conectiva.com.br</email></address>
</author>

or

<author>
  <firstname>Jorge</firstname>
  <surname>Godoy</surname>
  <email>godoy@conectiva.com.br</email>
</author>

that godoy@conectiva.com.br is an e-mail address. The tags guarantee
that it's an e-mail and not a name. The second alternative is only to
forbid filling other address' data. 

>   OK, someone must have done this, can anyone cite a case? Or do
>   governments not consider "@" a letter in any language and
>   hence would refuse my attempt to legally become "ndw@nwalsh.com"?
>   </digression>

I don't see why bothering with this. 
Don't articles come with these data? Or do government allows e-mail
addresses in companies names? If it does allow that, why would it
forbid using e-mail in people name?

> I suppose one compromise would be:
> 
>     <author>
>        <firstname>Norman</firstname>
>        <surname>Walsh</surname>
>        <affiliation role="self">
>          <address><email>ndw@nwalsh.com</email></address>
>        </affiliation>
>        <affiliation role="employer">
>          <orgname>Arbortext, Inc.</orgname>
>          <address><email>nwalsh@arbortext.com</email></address>
>        </affiliation>
>      </author>
> 
> But it would be nice if this was easier?

Sure it would be nicer! The easier to use the more the users will use
it. 

> Anyone got a suggestion?

The two I've put above only.

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