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Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: RFE: Date Format

I'm an American too, but I prefer year, month, day order.
Probably because I use dates in filenames a lot and that 
order sorts the way I want in a UNIX directory listing. 8^)

>> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:33:54 -0800
>> From: Mark Wroth <mark@astrid.upland.ca.us>
>> Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: RFE: Date Format
>> To: David Lloyd <lloy0076@rebel.net.au>,
>>         Gregory Leblanc <gleblanc@cu-portland.edu>
>> Cc: Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>, docbook@lists.oasis-open.org
>> The simple answer to this is to state  months as strings, rather than 
>> numbers -- although that raises the issue of language, DocBook has 
>> mechanisms in place to deal with that.
>> I actually woudn't mind seeing a content model that permits explicit markup 
>> of the day/month/year without requiring it. But my problems with it are in 
>> reading documents -- the ones I write I control the date format and can 
>> prohibit the ambiguous formats.
>> (BTW, I'm an American, and I prefer  day month year order.  But I seem to 
>> be in a minority)
>> Mark
>> David Lloyd wrote:
>> >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2001 11:13:00 -0800 (PST)
>> >To: Gregory Leblanc <gleblanc@cu-portland.edu>
>> >Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: RFE: Date Format
>> >From: David Lloyd <lloy0076@rebel.net.au>
>> >Hmmm...
>> >
>> >>Since when are they not searchable?  http://www.LinuxDoc.org/search.html
>> >>has options for what to search, and one of those is the mailing list
>> >>archives.
>> >So I didn't see the searchable part? I could draw conclusions about how
>> >this reflects on the LDP, but...
>> >
>> >>This is, at least in some small part, because the LDP mailing lists are
>> >>full of "flamers".  Some long-time veterans just try to avoid those
>> >>"flame-easy" topics, for the sake of getting any work done.
>> >Some people make a suggestion, a RFE even, to make it easier on
>> >everyone. The point of the matter is that there is a problem with dates
>> >and soemone has attempted (alas, I am thinking not succesffully) to take
>> >it out of the LDP's hands and put it all on the style sheets. Which,
>> >incidentally, happen to render SGML documents in a style suitable to
>> >one's purpose, location and desire.
>> >
>> >>addition to DocBook, but I'm still listening.  For the LDP, this issue
>> >>could be solved by getting non-profit status, and asking authors to give
>> >>the copyrights to the LDP.  This would allow the LDP to make "editorial
>> >>changes", like putting the dates into a sane format.
>> >Rubbish. I wouldn't licence the LDP to have editorial charge of any of
>> >my work in a blue fit; as far as I can see they can't even decide what
>> >date format one should use despite the fact there's an ISO standard. I
>> >could make some particularly nasty remarks about Americans and
>> >Europoeans but I will resist doing so (1).
>> >This doesn't imply I wound not contribute. I would, however, submit work
>> >to it on its current understanding: if anyone wants to make a change,
>> >editorial or not they'll try their best to contact me.
>> >DL
>> >(1)
>> >As far as I can see the Americans want the month first. Period. End of
>> >story. And they're sticking to their guns...
>> >--
>> >You have a deformed comb,
>> >so go suck eggs...
>> Mark Wroth
>> <mark@astrid.upland.ca.us>

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