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Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: RFE: Date Format
I'm an American too, but I prefer year, month, day order. Probably because I use dates in filenames a lot and that order sorts the way I want in a UNIX directory listing. 8^) >> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:33:54 -0800 >> From: Mark Wroth <mark@astrid.upland.ca.us> >> Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: RFE: Date Format >> To: David Lloyd <lloy0076@rebel.net.au>, >> Gregory Leblanc <gleblanc@cu-portland.edu> >> Cc: Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>, docbook@lists.oasis-open.org >> >> The simple answer to this is to state months as strings, rather than >> numbers -- although that raises the issue of language, DocBook has >> mechanisms in place to deal with that. >> >> I actually woudn't mind seeing a content model that permits explicit markup >> of the day/month/year without requiring it. But my problems with it are in >> reading documents -- the ones I write I control the date format and can >> prohibit the ambiguous formats. >> >> (BTW, I'm an American, and I prefer day month year order. But I seem to >> be in a minority) >> >> Mark >> David Lloyd wrote: >> >> >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2001 11:13:00 -0800 (PST) >> >To: Gregory Leblanc <gleblanc@cu-portland.edu> >> >Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: RFE: Date Format >> >From: David Lloyd <lloy0076@rebel.net.au> >> >Hmmm... >> > >> >>Since when are they not searchable? http://www.LinuxDoc.org/search.html >> >>has options for what to search, and one of those is the mailing list >> >>archives. >> >So I didn't see the searchable part? I could draw conclusions about how >> >this reflects on the LDP, but... >> > >> >>This is, at least in some small part, because the LDP mailing lists are >> >>full of "flamers". Some long-time veterans just try to avoid those >> >>"flame-easy" topics, for the sake of getting any work done. >> >Some people make a suggestion, a RFE even, to make it easier on >> >everyone. The point of the matter is that there is a problem with dates >> >and soemone has attempted (alas, I am thinking not succesffully) to take >> >it out of the LDP's hands and put it all on the style sheets. Which, >> >incidentally, happen to render SGML documents in a style suitable to >> >one's purpose, location and desire. >> > >> >>addition to DocBook, but I'm still listening. For the LDP, this issue >> >>could be solved by getting non-profit status, and asking authors to give >> >>the copyrights to the LDP. This would allow the LDP to make "editorial >> >>changes", like putting the dates into a sane format. >> >Rubbish. I wouldn't licence the LDP to have editorial charge of any of >> >my work in a blue fit; as far as I can see they can't even decide what >> >date format one should use despite the fact there's an ISO standard. I >> >could make some particularly nasty remarks about Americans and >> >Europoeans but I will resist doing so (1). >> >This doesn't imply I wound not contribute. I would, however, submit work >> >to it on its current understanding: if anyone wants to make a change, >> >editorial or not they'll try their best to contact me. >> >DL >> >(1) >> >As far as I can see the Americans want the month first. Period. End of >> >story. And they're sticking to their guns... >> >-- >> >You have a deformed comb, >> >so go suck eggs... >> >> Mark Wroth >> <mark@astrid.upland.ca.us> >> o --- ---- | / / Lance F. Larsen | / / |/ / llarsen@sco.com o | / o |/ (908)790-2335 | --- o
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