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Subject: RE: AW: DOCBOOK: docbook suitable for book - creation ?
Framemaker can import DocBook. So you could write it in DocBook and do the final layout with that. You would probably need a week to learn how to use Framemaker, though. Just another idea we were playing around with. Stephan > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Wilm [mailto:listen@peterwilm.de] > Sent: Sonntag, 17. November 2002 20:21 > To: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Re: AW: DOCBOOK: docbook suitable for book - creation ? > > > Hi Marc, > Thank you for your hints! > I also read Stephan's thesis and came to the conclusion, that > it is too much effort for me to switch from LaTeX to DocBook. > DocBook seems great for large projects, where there are the > ressources to modify the existing and create new Stylesheets > and for building systems for end-users like Stephan and his > colleagues do. But for a single diploma thesis of an enduser > it seems a bit of an overkill in my eyes. So I will use > LaTeX, which I already know, like You recommended. Thanks! Peter. > > > On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 15:32:20 +0100 > "Schlienger, Marc" <M.Schlienger@bjoernsen.de> wrote: > > > Hello Peter, > > > > let me give you my opinion, despite the fact I'm quite new > as well in > > the DocBook world... > > > > DocBook experts, do not hesitate to point out if I'm wrong... > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: Peter Wilm [SMTP:listen@peterwilm.de] > > > Gesendet am: Sonntag, 17. November 2002 14:35 > > > An: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org > > > Betreff: DOCBOOK: docbook suitable for book - creation ? > > > > > > Hi, > > > The literature for docbook - newbies (e.g. DocBook: The Definitive > > > Guide) concentrates on the creation of the structured content. > > > However, as I consider learning docbook for writing my thesis, I > > > would also like to know how to produce a printed version of the > > > book. I do have highly specific constraints regarding the Layout: > > > e.g. the size of the left / right page margin, etc. So > the layout is > > > specified in the stylesheet, which is written in XSL or DSSL, I > > > suppose ? > > [Schlienger, Marc] yes, that's true. You can then adapt it to > > your needs by following these steps (it gets from easy for > > simple changes, to difficult for complex layout wishes) > > 1. set some xsl parameters as you wish (for instance, body > > margin size, title margin size, paper size, etc.) > > 2. write a stylesheet customization layer for more options: > > custom title page, sets of attributes, custom headers/footers, > > etc. 3. fine tune your customization layer with custom > > templates for chapters, sections. > > 4. write your own stylesheets? > > > > > Is there any online literature suitable for beginners ? > > [Schlienger, Marc] go there: > > http://docbook.org/wiki/moin.cgi/ > > > > > So, if I want to create a suitable layout for my thesis - not for > > > some thesis - but to fullfill the specifications that *I* got - > > > will it be easy to learn to write the stylesheet (i.e. in a few > > > days) ? [Schlienger, Marc] step 1 == less than a day, ----> > > > step 4 == one week if you are new to stylesheets > > > > > With LaTeX everything seems clear to me - but the switch LaTeX -> > > > docbook is a bit difficult if you have to print the XML - > document > > > to a PDF file in a concrete specified Layout ? > > [Schlienger, Marc] if you already know LaTeX, I would suggest > > write your thesis in LaTeX. But if you absolutely want to > > learn DocBook, then write it in DocBook, and use the db2latex > > stylesheet to produce LaTeX from DocBook, then you are again > > in your world to perform whatever you want. > > > > > I got the impression that layout doesn't matter to the docbook > > > community... > > [Schlienger, Marc] I believe the print layout is still in its > > early stages for DocBook, since it builds mostly on Formated > > Objects (FO) and FOP, the processor for FO, is still in > > version 0.20... Well, you can use PassiveTex (fo-->pdf using > > TeX), but it won't produce such a nice layout as does LaTeX. > > > > DocBook was first designed for Software Documentation. > If your thesis > > covers more general stuff, then maybe LaTeX is better. I > find DocBook > > great, among the most powerful characteristics is the > single sourcing. > > You might not need this, or am I wrong? Maybe you want Html and PDF > > output. LaTeX is good for that. > > > > DocBook is more structured than LaTeX, so it won't be a > > problem to produce LaTeX from DocBook, but the opposite isn't > > true. > > > > I hope this helps you to decide. > > > > Marc. > >
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