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Subject: DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 21 Jan 2004
/ "Bob Stayton" <bobs@sagehill.net> was heard to say:
| Agenda
|
| 1. Roll call
Gary Cornelius
Paul Grosso
Dick Hamilton
Scott Hudson
Mark Johnson
Mike Smith
Norman Walsh, chair and scribe
Regrets:
None
Absent:
Jeff Beal
Steve Cogorno
Nancy Harrison
Larry Rowland
Bob Stayton
| 2. Accepting the minutes[1] of the previous (November) meeting
| Note: there was no quorum for the December meeting.
Accepted.
| 3. Next meeting: 18 Feb 2004.
No regrets.
| 4. Review of the agenda (set aside more time for RFEs?)
See 5a and 7b.
| 5. Review of open action items
|
| a. Norm to follow-up on RFE 562343: <packagename> element
ACTION: Transferred to Mark.
| b. Norm to write better documentation for option/optional
Continued.
| c. Norm to describe how the prototype works and how it was constructed.
Norm described the system. It's much simpler now.
In CVS under sourceforge.net/projects/docbook/ it's in docbook/docbook/relax-ng
I've described some of the choices I've made on http://norman.walsh.name/
Completed.
| d. Mike to provide a better proposal for choicelist markup.
Continued.
| e. Mike to reconsider the annotation problem and post his thoughts.
Continued.
| f Norm to post his stylesheet that attempts to convert existing DocBook
| documents to the "V5" style markup.
It's in the CVS repository. Also in CVS is the set of tests (from the DocBook
tests collection). The tests in tests/skip are the ones that I don't believe
can be converted automatically.
| g. Dick to propose more general solution for caption in mediaobject.
Continued.
| h. Steve to propose generalizing programlisting to the list.
Continued.
| i. Bob to send out action item reminder mail.
| COMPLETED.
| j. Norm to produce simplified 4.3CR1 DTD.
| COMPLETED.
5a. Complain about Kavi
By unanimous consent, we do wish to lodge some sort of complaint.
- The documents in the system, as exposed to non-members is really useless
- The fact you cant link between documents is really bad
- It's impossible to publish schemas that need such
- System identifiers for documents as they are updated; the URLs are not
practical for publication as normative references to material
- It's impossible to predict what the URIs are going to be
- MIME email issues
- No internal navigation for TCs that want to maintain more sophisticated pages
- This makes the OASIS site less useful.
- It's hard to find things
- People are moving documents off the TC site in order to address these issues.
ACTION: Norm to draft a message for TC approval
The TC will decide by email vote to send the message officially.
Accepted.
| 6. biblioref proposal [1]
| (formerly Improved citation support, RFE 810932).
The replies to our previous message never made it to the docbook-tc list.
ACTION: Mike to forward the responses to our previous message to our list.
ACTION: Norm to make sure this is on our agenda for next month.
Apologies to the biblioref proposers for this delay.
| 7. DocBook V4.3 CR1
Norm: I published DocBook V4.3CR3 today.
Scott: Did you include the changes to the attributes on caption?
Norm: Drat. No.
ACTION: Norm will publish CR4 with the required changes to caption.
ACTION: Norm to republish Simplified 4.3CR4.
7b. Additions to Simplified
Norm: I have reservations about making Simplified bigger.
Mark: I agree.
Scott: Anchor seems like the critical one, the others I can add in a
customization layer.
Norm: I think I could see adding anchor, if that was enough.
Scott: I think that would be acceptable.
Proposal: Add anchor to Simplified DocBook.
Accepted.
ACTION: Norm to make it so.
| 8. DocBook V5.0 (RELAX NG)
Norm gave a report on his design experiments. The summary: it feels
like we're going in the right direction.
ADJOURNED
| 9. Reconsider the policy for backwards incompatible changes.
|
| 10. Revisit addition of 'language' attribute
| to programlisting and synopsis (use MIME?).
| See [2] for the original RFE 798616.
| See [3] for the minutes of the decision.
| See [4] and [5] for further discussion about it.
|
| 11. Review of Requests for Enhancement
|
| To browse a specific RFE, enter the URL (on one line):
|
| http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&;;
| group_id=21935&atid=384107&aid=XXXX
|
| 543064 JavaObject tag
| 675024 form, script, applet support
| 698026 cannot embed <superscript> within <guibutton>
| 702185 add procedure as child of para
| 711815 Tagging for subtler breaks or "pauses" within a chapter
| 742373 Splitting Segmented List
| 752632 Color control of CALS table element
| 798616 syntax="" or notation="" needed for code listings
| 828720 'spacing' attr. for 'variablelist'
|
| The following RFEs are awaiting action items
|
| 413389 Enhance METHODNAME and VARNAME (Norm, generic linking)
| 431411 RFE 70: add generic linking capability (Norm)
| 522552 Add title attribute to <ulink> element (Mike, annotations)
| 541444 caption in mediaobjectco (Dick)
| 562343 <packagename> element (Norm)
| 565637 Associate non-inline image with link (Norm, generic linking)
| 574880 Add annotation element (Mike)
| 613293 Generalize programlisting (Steve)
| 623524 (Re)Consider "choicelist" markup (Mike)
|
| The following RFEs are identified as V6.0 or later
|
| 531851 Remove inline person name elements
| 532088 Remove RevHistory from qandaentry
| - ---
|
| [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-tc/200311/msg00014.html
| [2]
| http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=798616&group_id=21935&atid=384107
| [3] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/200309/msg00037.html
| [4] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/200401/msg00011.html
| [5] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/200401/msg00019.html
Be seeing you,
norm
--
Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com> | Perhaps the most valuable result
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | of all education is the ability to
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | make yourself do the thing you
| have to do, when it ought to be
| done, whether you like it or
| not.--Thomas H. Huxley
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