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Subject: Re: [docbook] On family/given/first/last names
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 03:57, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > Quoting Geraint North <geraint@transitive.com>: > > Out of interest, what do people use the > > firstname/surname/lastname/givenname distinction for? > > Naming conventions are a pet peeve for everyone involved in generating > citations and bibliographies for scholarly publications. Scientific > journals and publishers have fairly strict rules how to display names > of authors and editors. In order to do that, you need to know the > function of each part of the name. Assume the journal wants the names > displayed as "Last, First M.". A guy named Luis Lopez Penabad would > obviously be displayed as "Penabad, Luis L." although this is all > wrong. He is Spanish, has one firstname (Luis) and two lastnames > (Lopez Penabad), one from each of his parents. The correct display > form is therefore "Lopez Penabad, Luis". The > firstname/surname/lastname/givenname elements somewhat help to get > this right, although you still face lots of problems with non-Western > names, and even with some standard US names. E.g. if a person goes by > his second "firstname", like L. Clinton Webb, the current DocBook > markup has a hard time to catch this. > > regards, > Markus I always thought bibtex was the defacto standard for bibliography ordering and formatting with its First von Last Jr. splitting - as described e.g. point 18 here: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/tex/pack/bibtex/btxdoc/node8.html My guess was that most journals accepted latex style manuscripts with bibtex bibliographies and just applied a journal specific style. I would expect some standard DocBook markup to reflect that, just for consistency as an interchange format and for standardizing bibliography formatting and ordering styles. cheers Doug
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