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Subject: Re: [docbook] DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 19 November 2008
Hi, No, there is no release date set for 5.1. It is in the early stages of development. Bob Stayton Sagehill Enterprises bobs@sagehill.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Quadling" <rquadling@googlemail.com> To: "Bob Stayton" <bobs@sagehill.net> Cc: "DocBook Technical Committee" <docbook-tc@lists.oasis-open.org>; <docbook@lists.oasis-open.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [docbook] DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 19 November 2008 > 2008/11/19 Bob Stayton <bobs@sagehill.net>: >> DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 19 November 2008 >> ============================================================= >> >> The DocBook Technical Committee met on Wednesday, >> 19 November 2006 at 1:00p EST (10:00a PST, 18:00GMT, >> 18:00BST, 19:00CEST, 03:00JST+, 11:30p India+) for 65 >> minutes. >> >> 1. Roll call >> >> Present: Paul Grosso, Scott Hudson, Dick Hamilton, >> Gershon Joseph, Jirka Kosek, Larry Rowland, Bob Stayton, >> Norm Walsh. >> >> Absent: Jim Earley, Keith Falhgren, Patricia Gee, Nancy >> Harrison, Corey Leong, Dave Pawson, John Pederson, >> Pine Zhang >> >> We have a quorum of voting members. >> >> 2. Accpeted the minutes [1] of the previous meeting (September). >> >> 3. Next meeting: 17 December 2008 >> >> No regrets. >> >> 4. Review of the agenda. >> >> 5. Review of open action items >> >> a. Bob to organize TDG reading after names are fixed. >> CONTINUE >> >> b. Bob to add agenda item for using a map for modular DocBook. >> DONE >> >> c. Norm to write up a backwards compatibility policy document. >> CONTINUE >> >> d. Gershon to communicate with JoAnne Hackos regarding adoption >> committee. >> CONTINUE >> >> e. Norm to incorporate group parameter change (RFE 1998852) into the >> schema >> for 5.1. >> CONTINUE >> >> f. Norm to ask mailing list about 'rep' on methodparam. >> CONTINUE >> >> g. Bob to follow up with Norm regarding submittal to OASIS. >> CONTINUE >> >> h. Jirka to analyze RelaxNG without Schematron. >> DONE >> >> i. Larry to investigate RFE 2100736 (initializer should allow >> constants). >> DONE >> >> >> 6. DocBook TC charter review. >> >> Needs an update regarding the activities of the Publishing >> Subcommittee. >> >> ACTION: Dick to review and propose changes >> >> 7. DocBook 5.0 standards update >> >> It is now a Committee Specification. For the OASIS >> Standard, We are waiting for a third >> corporate member to declare they are using DocBook 5. >> >> ACTION: Norm to update the OASIS site for 5.0 spec and schem. >> >> 8. Public and system identifiers for DocBook 5.0 DTD. >> >> Bob mentioned that we don't have a public identifier for >> the DocBook 5.0 DTD. Although the DTD is not the normative >> standard, people still use it and need a consistent public >> identifier. Also, versions 4 always included a URL to >> a copy of the DTD that can be used as a default system >> identifier. We should add that for 5.0 as well. >> >> ACTION: Norm to update the spec to include the public and >> system identifiers. >> >> 9. Discussion of RelaxNG without Schematron (Jirka). >> >> Jirka posted a comparison table of the various schema. The latest >> version is dated 18 November 2008 [2]. The concern is >> that not all tools support the normative standard of >> RelaxNG with Schematron rules. >> >> Norm pointed out that the automated conversion from RelaxNG >> to DTD and XML Schema forms is faulty. He suggested we >> might hand build and maintain those schemas to maximize >> their fidelity to the RelaxNG normative standard. >> Or we could wait until James Clark updates Trang to >> make the conversions more complete. >> >> Gershon asked how many users there are for DTD and XML Schema. >> >> Gershon also suggested that since some tools don't support RelaxNG, >> perhaps XML Schema should be the normative standard because >> it is supported by more tools. >> >> Bob pointed out that the RelaxNG schema is very easy >> to customize, and currently the DTD and XML Schema are not >> because they are mechanically generated and have a flat >> structure. >> >> ACTION: Norm to ask James Clark if a Trang update will work better. >> >> ACTION: Bob will ask the mailing list who is using 5.0, which >> validation tool they are using, and why using DTD or XML Schema >> instead of RelaxNG. >> >> ACTION: Jirka to add the schema comparison table to >> the DocBook 5.0 Transition Guide. >> >> 10. Policy for backwards compatible changes (Norm). >> >> Continued. >> >> 11. Publishing Subcommittee report (Scott). >> >> The committee has been meeting. They addressed some >> comments from Norm, and are considering items for drama >> documents. They are also considering using Dublin Core >> metadata element names with the DC namespace inside the >> info element, and maybe making the DC elements mutually >> exclusive with the corresponding DocBook elements to >> avoid duplication and confusion. >> >> 12. DocBook Adoption Committee proposal (Gershon). >> >> Continued. >> >> 13. Using a map for modular DocBook (Dick and Jim). >> >> Continued. >> >> 14. Review of Requests for Enhancement >> >> To browse a specific RFE, enter the URL (on one line): >> >> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&;; >> group_id=21935&atid=384107&aid=XXXX >> >> These RFEs postponed until after 5.0 release >> 1097183 Allow Task as a sibling of sections >> 1679665 Add better support for modular documentation >> 1722935 DocBook 5: Adding proofreader in @class for othercredit? >> 1770787 Rename firstname and surname >> 1907003 biblioid content model too broad >> >> ACTION: Bob to move the above RFEs to the general list >> for the next agenda. >> >> >> RFEs to be considered >> 2021383 Is 'rep' on methodparam a mistake? >> >> Continued. >> >> 2067915 add floatstyle attribute to sidebar >> >> Approved for 5.1. >> ACTION: Norm to add to 5.1 schema. >> >> 2100736 initializer should allow constants >> >> Larry presented evidence that the element should have a >> more complete content model. Generally accepted, but we >> need a detailed content model proposal. >> >> ACTION: Norm to write up a content model proposal for initializer. >> >> 2132238 add a poem element >> >> Denied, because the Publishing Subcommittee is addressing this. >> Suggested the submittor contact the Subcommittee. >> >> 2315507 subtitle in sidebar >> >> Approved for 5.1. >> ACTION: Norm to add to 5.1 schema. >> >> ----- >> >> [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-tc/200809/msg00002.html >> [2] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-tc/200811/msg00004.html >> >> Bob Stayton >> Sagehill Enterprises >> bobs@sagehill.net >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-help@lists.oasis-open.org >> >> > > Is there any sort of release date for DocBook 5.1? > > > -- > ----- > Richard Quadling > Zend Certified Engineer : http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498&r=213474731 > "Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!" > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org > For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-help@lists.oasis-open.org > > >
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