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Subject: Re: [docbook] More than one value for an attribute.


Yes, you can set the profiling attribute delimiter using the 'profile.separator' stylesheet param.  But I noticed that Kate's original examples showed spaces in the value of condition strings (Windows XP). Those spaces would need to be removed if you want to use space as the delimiter.
 
Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
bobs@sagehill.net
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:55 AM
Subject: RE: [docbook] More than one value for an attribute.

Hi Kate,

I know that RelaxNG has a “list” pattern: http://www.relaxng.org/tutorial-20011203.html#IDAK0YR

 

What I don’t know is if you can specify the delimiter. Maybe a RelaxNG expert out there can help us.

 

I believe you can set the profiling delimiter in the xslts, so you could set that to space and then do something like the following:

 

<define name="db.vendor.attribute">

  <attribute name="vendor">

  <a:documentation>Indicates…</a:documentation>

   <list>

   <oneOrMore>

       <value type="token">Windows</value>

       <value type="token">Linux</value>

       <value type="token">Mac</value>

       <value type="token">iOS</value>

       <value type="token">Blackberry</value>

   </oneOrMore>

 </list>

   </attribute>

 </define>

 

That takes care of the validation side, but I don’t know if your editor (Oxygen I assume) will automatically help the user add valid values.

 

David

 

 

From: Kate.Wringe@sybase.com [mailto:Kate.Wringe@sybase.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:58 AM
To: Cramer, David W (David)
Cc: bobs@sagehill.net; docbook@lists.oasis-open.org; rob.cavicchio@emc.com
Subject: RE: [docbook] More than one value for an attribute.

 


Thank you to all who responded to my query.

David's example with xrefstyle is close to what I want to be able to do. I define the vendor attribute as follows

 <define name="db.vendor.attribute">
  <attribute name="vendor">
  <a:documentation>Indicates the level of user experience for which the element applies</a:documentation>
   <choice>
       <value type="token">Windows</value>
       <value type="token">Linux</value>
       <value type="token">Mac</value>
       <value type="token">iOS</value>
       <value type="token">Blackberry</value>
 </choice>
   </attribute>
 </define>

Then in my XML file, I set the vendor attribute to two values (separating them with a semi-colon)
<section xmlns="http://docbook.org/ns/docbook" version="5.0" xml:id="da-dboptions" remap="concept" vendor="Blackberry;Mac">

But, I keep getting the following error in my authoring tool (I'm using oXygen)

SystemID: C:\src\db\pubs\dbAdmin\da-dboptions2.xml
Engine name: Jing
Severity: error
Description: value of attribute "vendor" is invalid; must be equal to "Windows", "Linux", "Mac", "iOs" or "Blackberry"
Start location: 13:23
End location: 13:34

Is there something that I need to set in the RNG file so that it knows that the vendor attribute can have more than one value?

Thanks,
Kate

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"Cramer, David W (David)" <dcramer@motive.com>

02/02/2011 11:06 AM

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RE: [docbook] More than one value for an attribute.

 




Ah, perfect for my case and so simple. All I have to do (using RelaxNG and Oxygen) is:
 
                                <define name="db.xrefstyle.attribute">
                                                <attribute name="xrefstyle">
                                                                <a:documentation>Specifies a keyword or keywords identifying additional style information</a:documentation>
                                                                <choice>
                                                                                <value type="token">select: nopage</value>
                                                                                <value type="token">select: label nopage</value>
                                                                                <value type="token">select: linktext</value>
                                                                                <text/>
                                                                </choice>
                                                </attribute>
                                </define>
 
Not sure about Kate’s case :-)
 
Thanks,
David
 
From: rob.cavicchio@emc.com [mailto:rob.cavicchio@emc.com]
Sent:
Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:17 AM
To:
Cramer, David W (David); bobs@sagehill.net; docbook@lists.oasis-open.org; Kate.Wringe@sybase.com
Subject:
RE: [docbook] More than one value for an attribute.

 
As you say, I think it is editor customization, and that depends on the editor.
 
In Arbortext Editor, you can get what amounts to a combobox, with free form text entry in addition to a list of common choices. You do this by defining an attribute value space to be the union of an enumeration (list of specific items) and a text pattern that defines exactly what you can type. For example:
 
            <xs:simpleType name="vendor">
                        <xs:union>
                                    <!-- TYPICAL VALUES TO CHOOSE FROM -->
                                    <xs:simpleType>
                                                <xs:restriction base="xs:string">
                                                            <xs:enumeration value="linux" />
                                                            <xs:enumeration value="mac" />
                                                            <xs:enumeration value="windows" />
                                                </xs:restriction>
                                    </xs:simpleType>
                                    <!-- STRING PATTERN IF TYPED MANUALLY -->
                                    <xs:simpleType>
                                                <xs:restriction base="xs:string">
                                                            <xs:pattern value="(linux|mac|windows)((;(linux|mac|windows))*)?" />
                                                </xs:restriction>
                                    </xs:simpleType>
                        </xs:union>
            </xs:simpleType>
 
I don't know if other editors would handle this in a similar way.
 
 
 
From: Cramer, David W (David) [mailto:dcramer@motive.com]
Sent:
Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:58 AM
To:
Bob Stayton; docbook@lists.oasis-open.org; Kate.Wringe@sybase.com
Subject:
RE: [docbook] More than one value for an attribute.

 
As soon as I hit send, I woke up a little and realized that what you really want is a dialog box in the editor (launched by a button or whatever) that lets the writer click one or more checkboxes for each value, then when they click ok, it turns the selected values into a comma delimited list as the attribute value. For my xrefstyle case, I’d use radio buttons instead of check boxes. The user is still free to edit the attribute value manually.  You could also customize the xslts to check the list of values to make sure nothing unsupported was entered.
 
David
 
From: Cramer, David W (David) [mailto:dcramer@motive.com]
Sent:
Wednesday, February 02, 2011 6:43 AM
To:
Bob Stayton; docbook@lists.oasis-open.org; Kate.Wringe@sybase.com
Subject:
RE: [docbook] More than one value for an attribute.

 
Hi Kate,
As Bob says, the DocBook xsl’s profiling mechanism supports this, but I take your question to be about the authoring side of the problem. What you really want to know is if there’s a way to help the writer avoid doing something like vendor=”Windows XP, Linix” (where “Linix” is misspelled and so won’t have the desired effect). That seems to me a matter of editor customization. In fact, this is on my list of things to look into wrt the xrefstyle attribute. In that case, I would like to offer the writer a list of typical choices but still leave them free to enter arbitrary text so I don’ t have to enumerate every possibility in the schema. I haven’t figured out what to do yet, so please let me know if you come up with a situation. You might also ask your editor’s support folks to see if they have suggestions.
 
David
 
From: Bob Stayton [mailto:bobs@sagehill.net]
Sent:
Tuesday, February 01, 2011 6:02 PM
To:
docbook@lists.oasis-open.org; Kate.Wringe@sybase.com
Subject:
Re: [docbook] More than one value for an attribute.

 
Yes, you can do this.  See the third bullet item in this reference:
 
http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/MultiProfile.html
 
Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
bobs@sagehill.net
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Kate.Wringe@sybase.com
To: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:43 PM
Subject: [docbook] More than one value for an attribute.
 

Hello,


Is there a way to define an attribute so that the writer can select more than one choice for its value (i.e., can an attribute be set to a delimited list of values)?


For example: vendor= "Windows XP, Windows 2008, Linux, Unix, Mac, iOS".


It seems that when attributes are discussed, that there is an assumption that the writer only wants to pick one value for the attribute. For example, when setting

the vendor attribute, the writer only needs to choose between Windows or Linux. However, we need to be able to specify more than value for the vendor attribute.

For example some of our content applies to Windows only, some of the content applies to Windows and Linux, some of the content applies to iOs and Mac Os, some of the content

applies to Windows, Linux, and Mac Os, etc., As we support more operating systems, the number of vendor combinations increases. We need to be able to append the new OS to the

vendor attribute. We don't want to have a set of different combinations to choose from as this would be cumbersome to work with.


Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thank you,
Kate



..........................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Kate Wringe | Senior Information Developer | SQL Anywhere Doc Team |
Sybase | 445 Wes Graham Way, Waterloo, ON, N2L 6R2 Canada | Tel: (519) 883-6838 | kate.wringe@sybase.com | www.sybase.com



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