Re: [docbook] RFE: RDFa in Docbook 5

["Bob Stayton" <bobs@sagehill.net>]

Hi Joshua,
If you want this to be considered by the DocBook Technical Committee, please 
file a RFE on the DocBook SourceForge site:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=21935&atid=384107

The Technical Committee will then take it up at its next meeting.

Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
bobs@sagehill.net

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From: "Joshua Wulf" <jwulf@redhat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 6:52 PM
To: "Jirka Kosek" <jirka@kosek.cz>
Cc: <docbook@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: Re: [docbook] RFE: RDFa in Docbook 5

> Revisting this ~a year later...
>
> It looks like schema.org is converging on RDFa Lite:
>
> http://blog.schema.org/2011/11/using-rdfa-11-lite-with-schemaorg.html
> http://blog.schema.org/2012/06/semtech-rdfa-microdata-and-more.html
>
> Manu Sporny makes a solid case that RDFa Lite is the one to go with: 
> http://manu.sporny.org/2012/mythical-differences/
>
> Schema.org has a proposed vocabulary for technical documentation too: 
> http://blog.schema.org/2012/06/newvocabularies-for-technical.html
>
> With Docbook 5 and HTML 5, what's the situation with putting schema.org 
> markup into Docbook books (whether through microdata or RDFa Lite) today?
>
> Norm put this customization together: 
> https://gist.github.com/docbook/2768701
>
> So to get that to work, I'd need to modify my xsl to pipe it through to 
> the html, right?
>
> If I do that, what are the chances of it being accepted into a future 
> release?
>
> - Josh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jirka Kosek" <jirka@kosek.cz>
> > To: "Joshua Wulf" <jwulf@redhat.com>
> > Cc: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 7:12:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [docbook] RFE: RDFa in Docbook 5
> >
> > On 13.12.2011 3:28, Joshua Wulf wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not sure if I have it right, but it seems that Docbook 5 with
> > > its
> > > xml schema base supports adding RDFa data to the xml with no
> > > problems.
> > > What I'd like is to have that RDFa data flow through to the built
> > > html
> > > output.
> >
> > Hi Joshua,
> >
> > could you elaborate more on you requirements. What's usecase for
> > having
> > RDFa in DocBook?
> >
> > > I've opened the RFE against the XSL stylesheets rather than against
> > > the
> > > DTD/schema because (I think) that's the only place that changes
> > > would
> > > need to be made. Have I opened it in the right place?
> >
> > Probably no. If we decide that adding RDFa into DocBook is good idea,
> > schema has to be modified first. If you look at
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-syntax/ you will see that special
> > atttributes
> > like property, rel, about, resource, datatype are needed to convey
> > RDFa.
> > If you want to use RDFa in DocBook similar attributes has to be added
> > into DocBook.
> >
> > Once this is done, appropriate change in stylesheets has to be done
> > as
> > well to pipe these metadata to XHTML output.
> >
> > But it would be really interesting to know what problem are you
> > trying
> > to solve. Honestly, future for RDFa doesn't look very bright IMHO.
> > Currently it can be used only in XHTML, not in HTML. It seems that
> > approach chosen by microdata/schema.org has more chances on the
> > market.
> > But we will see.
> >
> > Jirka
> >
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