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Subject: RE: [docbook] Simplifying image markup


Norman,

RE: Should we consider allowing "bare" imagedata/audiodata/videodata
elements in DocBook? I suppose they'd be both inline and block
elements.

I have not needed to use audiodata or videodata, but I think it would be helpful to allow a "bare" imagedata element at least within a figure. 

Regards,
Norma Emery
________________________________________
From: Norman Walsh [ndw@nwalsh.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:07 PM
To: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [docbook] Simplifying image markup

Hi folks,

A friend was griping about the complexity of mediaobjects earlier today.

  <figure xml:id="ex.pythagorean">
    <title>The Pythagorean Theorem Illustrated</title>
    <mediaobject>
      <imageobject condition="print">
        <imagedata fileref="figs/print/db5d_ref01.pdf"/>
      </imageobject>
    </mediaobject>
  </figure>

I grant that there are a few more layers of wrapper in there than
you'd really like. The wrappers exist for good reasons, but mostly
related to dealing with multiple output formats (CMYK, hi-res color,
low-res color, etc.).

Those uses are less common today than they were a decade ago.

What I assume my friend wants is an <img> tag. Adding a parallel image
structure to DocBook doesn't appeal to me, but it did occur to me that
we could allow imagedata in more places:

  <figure xml:id="ex.pythagorean">
    <title>The Pythagorean Theorem Illustrated</title>
    <imagedata fileref="figs/print/db5d_ref01.pdf"/>
  </figure>

It leaves a slightly odd element name but it's a single tag. I assume
that audiodata and videodata would be equally useful.

Should we consider allowing "bare" imagedata/audiodata/videodata
elements in DocBook? I suppose they'd be both inline and block
elements.

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

--
Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>      | We live on an island surrounded by
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | a sea of ignorance. As our island
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | of knowledge grows, so does the
                                   | shore of our ignorance.--John
                                   | Archibald Wheeler



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