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Subject: RE: [dss-x] Verification Reports for Visual Signatures



Hello,

I agree that it would be good if a simple string value for
CommitmentTypeIndication would be possible, as an option.  This would make
it possible for software that processes PDF document to represent the
information from the PDF "Reason" field (which is unstructured) in the XML
structure. The PDF "Location" similarly is a simple string value, so this
would be analogous. The implact on the XML schema would be minimal.

Thanks to you both for your responses.

Pim


-----Original Message-----
From: Ezer Farhi [mailto:Ezer@arx.com] 
Sent: 06 July 2008 13:44
To: Huehnlein, Detlef; Pim van der Eijk; dss-x@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [dss-x] Verification Reports for Visual Signatures

Hello Detlef,

Some remarks below.

Regards,
Ezer

-----Original Message-----
From: Huehnlein, Detlef [mailto:Detlef.Huehnlein@secunet.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:16 PM
To: Ezer Farhi; Pim van der Eijk; dss-x@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: AW: [dss-x] Verification Reports for Visual Signatures


Hi Ezer,

> 
> I think that is a good point that there are additional information 
> needed to be included in the multi-signature report profile. I 
> mentioned that in the draft of the Visual Signature profile.
> The question is whether to include this additional information in the 
> multi-signature report or in the visual signature profile.
> I think that it makes more sense to mention elements such as field 
> name and  reason in the visual signature profile as an extension to 
> the multi-signature report. (I'm not sure how formally and technically 
> this can be achieved though...)

as the verification report profile already has different conformance levels
("basic" and "advanced") I would prefer not to introduce more levels by
profiling this profile, but the "advanced" level should cover everything,
which is necessary to support the different signature formats. 

EF - OK.

Concerning the SignaturePtr-structure we could easily add the FieldName
attribute. What do you think about the potential mapping of the
PDF.Reason-element to the XAdES.CommitmentTypeIndication-element (cf. XAdES,
v1.3.2, Section 7.2.6)?

EF - Reason is a simple free text while as I understand
CommuinmentTypeIndication is a much more complex element.
I think it is important for this profile to enable retrieval of additional
application specific information that is bounded to the digital signature as
a generic element definition that can contain xs:string.

BR,
  Detlef   

> 
> Regards,
> Ezer
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pim van der Eijk [mailto:pvde@sonnenglanz.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:41 AM
> To: dss-x@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [dss-x] Verification Reports for Visual Signatures
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Detlef, Ezer and others,
> 
> For a project I have a requirement that covers both the verification 
> report profile and the visual signature profile.
> The project is an electronic archival system that archives PDF 
> documents. To support retrieving documents based on signature 
> information, we want to run a verification report on PDF documents to 
> retrieve any signatures in them, at the stage of adding new documents 
> to the archive. Ideally, both profiles could work together, so the 
> verification report could provide a full report for documents with 
> visual signatures.
> 
> For PDF documents, the verification should report on the PDF fields 
> "Location" and "Reason".  In the verification report schema, the 
> Location could map to "SignatureProductionPlace".
>  Is that a correct assumption?
> Where would the value for the PDF signature "Reason" fit in the 
> verification report schema?
> 
> In Ezer's draft Visual Signature profile, there is an added element 
> "SignatureReason" in "VisualSignatureDisplayConfigType".  Should the 
> verification report profile reference the visual signature profile and 
> retrieve such elements from its schema?
> 
> Pim
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Detlef.Huehnlein@secunet.com
> [mailto:Detlef.Huehnlein@secunet.com]
> Sent: 05 May 2008 14:24
> To: dss-x@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [dss-x] Groups - 1st working draft for multi-signature 
> verification reports profile 
> (2008_05_05_oasis-dss-profile-for-comprehensive-signature-veri
fication-repor
> t.doc) uploaded
> 
> Dear DSS-X-team,
> 
> I just uploaded the first working draft for the multi-signature 
> verification reports profile.
> 
> I'm looking forward to interesting discussions via mail and/or in our 
> next telco.
> 
> Best regards,
>   Detlef
> 
>  -- Detlef Huehnlein
> 
> The document named 1st working draft for multi-signature verification 
> reports profile 
> (2008_05_05_oasis-dss-profile-for-comprehensive-signature-veri
fication-repor
> t.doc)
> has been submitted by Detlef Huehnlein to the OASIS Digital Signature 
> Services eXtended (DSS-X) TC document repository.
> 
> Document Description:
> This document defines a protocol and processing profile of the DSS 
> Verifying Protocol specified in Section 4 of [DSSCore], which allows 
> to return individual signature verification reports for each signature 
> in a verification request and include detailed information of the 
> different steps taken during verification.
> 
> View Document Details:
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dss-x/document.ph
p?document_id=
> 28182
> 
> Download Document:  
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dss-x/download.ph
p/28182/2008_0
> 5_05_oasis-dss-profile-for-comprehensive-signature-verificatio
n-report.doc
> 
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