Raw chat trace of meeting #179 on 2017-APR-03

["Mr. Stefan Hagen" <stefan@hagen.link>]

[17:53] Room information was updated by: Stefan Hagen
OASIS Digital Signature Services eXtended (DSS-X) TC Weekly Meeting (Conference Call) #179
- Monday, 03 April 2017, 12:00 to 13:00 ET (UTC-5)
  - i.e. 2017-04-03 18:00 to 19:00 CEST (UTC+1)
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Meeting Member URL:
- URL = https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dss-x/event.php?event_id=43694
  - Please use starting approx. 15 minutes before the meeting for self registration. Thanks.
  - Self registration deep link (as a service):
    - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dss-x/record_my_attendance.php?event_id=43694&confirmed=1 

Agenda-Draft E-Mail URL:
- E-Mail Public URL = https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dss-x/201704/msg00000.html

Minutes Draft Public URL (previous meeting):
- URL = https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60323/dssx-178-draft-minutes-shagen-20170320.txt

Online document walkthroughs or presentations:
- URL = "Upon request via join.me"

Timeline:
- URL = "Ad Hoc "

Agenda Draft (for meeting #179):
- Roll call
- Approve agenda 
- Approve minutes from previous meeting(s)
  - Minutes from March 20, 2017 TC meeting #178: 
    - URL https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60323/dssx-178-draft-minutes-shagen-20170320.txt
- Reports from ETSI ESI STF-524 meetings
- Core and Profile Maintenance
  - Local Signature Profile
   - Announcement "DSS Extension for Local Signature Computation V1.0 CS02 published by DSS-X TC"
     - URL https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dss-x/201703/msg00010.html
  - Profile for Comprehensive Multi-Signature Verification Reports
  - Core
    - Open Action Items from Previous Call(s)
      - Anything new?
    - Core Issues in state New or Open (added since last meeting)
      - None
  - New Profile Candidates
    - PAdES
    - Server Site Profile for JEE Code Signing
- Next meeting
  - Monday May 15, 2017 during 18:00 - 19:00 CET? (2017-05-15 17:00 to 18:00 UTC) ?
- AOB and wrap up

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[17:54] Stefan Hagen: RegInfo{Voting Members: 1 of 5 (20%) (used for quorum calculation)}
[18:03] Stefan Hagen: RegInfo{Voting Members: 5 of 5 (100%) (used for quorum calculation) }
[18:06] Stefan Hagen: All debug the voice echo cancelling ...
[18:06] Stefan Hagen: We are quorate ... 
[18:08] Stefan Hagen: Echo seems to persist, sits, sits ssst
[18:10] Stefan Hagen: Roll call
[18:10] Stefan Hagen: We are quorate
[18:10] Juan Carlos: - Roll call
[18:10] Juan Carlos: SH, EJ, DH, AK, JC
[18:10] Juan Carlos: We have quorum.
[18:10] Juan Carlos: - Approve agenda
[18:11] Juan Carlos: Agenda approved
[18:11] Juan Carlos: - Approve minutes from previous meeting(s)
  - Minutes from March 20, 2017 TC meeting #178: 
    - URL https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60323/dssx-178-draft-minutes-shagen-20170320.txt
[18:11] Juan Carlos: Minutes approved
[18:11] Juan Carlos: - Reports from ETSI ESI STF-524 meetings
[18:11] Juan Carlos: Skip it. NO new meeting since the last one
[18:12] Juan Carlos: - Core and Profile Maintenance
[18:13] Juan Carlos: AK: I reviewed the AdES profile sent by JC. Made some comments.
[18:13] Juan Carlos: AK: we have to talk of PAdES. Will there be a PAdES profile or be merged in this one?
[18:18] Stefan Hagen: Suggest title "AdES Profiles of the OASIS Digital Signature Service Version 2.0"
[18:18] Stefan Hagen: All discuss first drafts of prototypical nature
[18:20] Stefan Hagen: All include the aspect of how to map topics into documents
[18:23] Stefan Hagen: Suggest as processing mode to now try to put all they Y AdES none document
[18:23] Stefan Hagen: then if we notice that this becomes unbalanced, we can split at any time
[18:24] Juan Carlos: I agree
[18:24] Juan Carlos: I volunteer to keep going with the AdES profile as editor
[18:24] anonymous morphed into Ernst Jan
[18:25] Stefan Hagen: @ErnstaJan and Detlef: Thanks
[18:25] Stefan Hagen: Juan Asks on how to proceed with the first prototype dos?
[18:25] Stefan Hagen: Stefan suggests to send anew version around
[18:27] Juan Carlos: SH: suggests to keep going with this document, circulate it by email, and once everything is a bit more stable (URIs, text, etc) we can request a new product and make it public in the Kavi.
[18:29] Juan Carlos: SH: I work with Word365 in a distributed environment
[18:34] Juan Carlos: AK and JC will be invited by SH for working on Windows drive in a cooperative way for this product
[18:35] Stefan Hagen: SH will also check the IPR situation (but is confident as OData is already using this cloud drive for ears)
[18:35] Stefan Hagen: years of course (explicitly requested kindly by AK)
[18:38] Juan Carlos: Anything on the core?
[18:39] Juan Carlos: SH: requested a work template to start. I am quite busy with other stuff.
[18:40] Juan Carlos: My plans is starting with design considerations. Core model, introducing the structure in an agnostic way. And then I expect to include the processing model....maybe in a kind of pseudo programming language...
[18:40] Juan Carlos: And then finalize with XML and JSON format
[18:45] Stefan Hagen: Promise (cheap) to deliver first rough cut this week (around the end)
[18:49] Juan Carlos: JC: Please put me into the loop of the Core version 2.0
[18:49] Juan Carlos: - Local Signature Profile
[18:50] Juan Carlos: DH: started to do some editing for the new version.
[18:50] Juan Carlos: THe main question is about how to specify JSON data
[18:50] Juan Carlos: Is there any example of JSON schema?
[18:51] Juan Carlos: AK: there are several sources for JSON schemas
[18:52] Juan Carlos: SH: No one has won a battle on JSON schemas.
[19:02] Stefan Hagen: Local Signature additions w.r.t. JSON should be iterated (no simple best practices for all JSON needs in one form)
[19:04] Stefan Hagen: Stefan will move over the mailing list to open the many new issues, so we can start processing them
[19:05] Stefan Hagen: Next meeting
  - Monday May 15, 2017 during 18:00 - 19:00 CET? (2017-05-15 17:00 to 18:00 UTC) ?
[19:05] Stefan Hagen: Agreed
[19:05] Stefan Hagen: AoB
[19:06] Stefan Hagen: JCC reports shortly on status of Liaison optimisation between ETSI and OASIS
[19:07] Stefan Hagen: Meeting adjourned