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Subject: Raw Minutes Chat for meeting #206 on 2018-03-19
[17:47] Stefan Hagen: Agenda draft: [17:48] Stefan Hagen: 1. Welcome by the chair (Stefan Hagen) 2. Minutes taker All write into the chat, Stefan assembles and uploads into document area. 3. Roll call 4. Approval of the agenda 5. Approval of minutes from previous calls 5.1 Minutes from call #205 on 2018-03-05: URL = https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/62653/chat_trace_dss_kavi.txt 6. Roadmap for 2018 6.1 Milestone DSS 2.0 Core/Base/MVP CSD01/CS01 stage 6.2 Milestone DSS 2.0 Popular Profiles CSD01 stage 6.3 Milestone DSS 2.0 other normative stages 6.4 Milestone DSS 2.0 supportive but supplementary non-normative materials 7. Core 2.0 issues discussion 7.1 Maintenance tasks 7.2 Topology of schemas - structure and relation 7.3 Editorial topics 8. Profiles 9. Next meeting Suggested to meet again on 2018-APR-16 Note: this is in 4 weeks (usual bi-weekly schedule would suggest Easter Monday as next meeting) 10. AOB [18:01] Stefan Hagen: DSS-X meeting #206 2018-MAR-19 [18:01] Stefan Hagen: 1. Welcome by the chair (Stefan Hagen) [18:01] Stefan Hagen: 2. Minutes taker All write into the chat, Stefan assembles and uploads into document area. [18:02] Stefan Hagen: 3. Roll call [18:02] Stefan Hagen: Quorum reached - present are: Andreas Kuehne, Detlef Huehnlein, Ernst Jan van Nigtevecht, and Stefan Hagen [18:02] Stefan Hagen: 4. Approval of the agenda [18:02] anonymous morphed into Detlef [18:03] Stefan Hagen: Agenda approved unchanged as published [18:03] Andreas: audio problems ... [18:03] Stefan Hagen: ... we are still in the bureaucratic section .. [18:03] Stefan Hagen: 5. Approval of minutes from previous calls 5.1 Minutes from call #205 on 2018-03-05: URL = https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/62653/chat_trace_dss_kavi.txt [18:03] Stefan Hagen: Minutes approved unchanged as published [18:04] Stefan Hagen: 6. Roadmap for 2018 6.1 Milestone DSS 2.0 Core/Base/MVP CSD01/CS01 stage 6.2 Milestone DSS 2.0 Popular Profiles CSD01 stage 6.3 Milestone DSS 2.0 other normative stages 6.4 Milestone DSS 2.0 supportive but supplementary non-normative materials [18:04] Stefan Hagen: 7. Core 2.0 issues discussion 7.1 Maintenance tasks [18:05] Stefan Hagen: Mail from editor Andreas to mailing list: """Hi all, after building an OpenAPI 3.0-conformant version of the new core spec I had to realize that tool support for this (strongly promoted) version is still unavailable.So I added generator-support for its predecessor 'Swagger 2'. Using this version a specification uploaded to SwaggerHub enjoys the full tool set, e.g. an impressive set of langugaes supported by the code generation facility. My question to the TC is whether the provisioning of DSS-X artifacts is considered as part of the TC's scope? Or should tasks that involve support and maintenance be avoided? In the latter case trustable would be happy to step in and take all the fame """ [18:17] Stefan Hagen: All: We will request a TC GitHub repo with initial (chair) with initial maintainers Andreas Kuehne and Stefan Hagen for serving the derived artefacts that e.g.. enable the OpenAPI /Swagger seeding. Rationale is boosting the uptake of version 2.0 od DSS [18:18] Stefan Hagen: Stefan will follow up with Robin w.r.t. namespace oracle [18:18] Stefan Hagen: 7.2 Topology of schemas - structure and relation [18:20] Stefan Hagen: AK: Andreas discussed with Detlef Info and Description elements, and wants to separate them out [18:20] Stefan Hagen: DH: Fine with him. Progressing of core is top priority and all other ideas should be revisited [18:20] Stefan Hagen: 7.3 Editorial topics [18:21] Stefan Hagen: AK: Will pick a namespace and push a version today after the meeting for everyone on the TC to inspect and feedback! [18:21] Stefan Hagen: Stefan suggest to take as namespaces for now: [18:22] Stefan Hagen: http://docs.oasis-open.org/dss/ns/core [18:22] Stefan Hagen: http://docs.oasis-open.org/dss/ns/base [18:22] Stefan Hagen: AK and Stefan are happy, and Ernst Jan also [18:22] Stefan Hagen: Will ask Robin ... [18:22] Stefan Hagen: 8. Profiles [18:23] Stefan Hagen: No news from Ernst Jan [18:23] Stefan Hagen: DH: Kindly asks if already feedback available on his suggestion to the local signature profile [18:24] Stefan Hagen: EJv: Started but not finished, only one nit for now (question) [18:25] Stefan Hagen: All discuss about a specific element, if element empty or something inside ... as JSON would usually skip empty elements as just being left out (same semantics) [18:26] Stefan Hagen: EJvN: Suggests to use a boolean and Andreas also chimes in along this as we did rewrite all flags in core to boolean [18:26] Stefan Hagen: All agree [18:30] Stefan Hagen: All discuss on how to tackle security aspects [18:30] Stefan Hagen: Stefan suggests to create a non-normative track committee note [18:31] Stefan Hagen: EJvN suggests a list to start, where we collect what we have or what will clearly become sensitive areas in the future [18:31] Stefan Hagen: All agree [18:31] Stefan Hagen: 9. Next meeting Suggested to meet again on 2018-APR-16 Note: this is in 4 weeks (usual bi-weekly schedule would suggest Easter Monday as next meeting) [18:32] Stefan Hagen: Allthink we can use the 4 weeks to read the two documents and also start use the to be requested GitHub repo etc. [18:32] Stefan Hagen: 10. AOB [18:36] Stefan Hagen: All Plattform to enable a motion during next meeting to request ballot set up for next revision as CSD01 and subsequent public review [18:39] Stefan Hagen: Some discussion on current STF-539 document drafts sent around around March, 1st [18:42] Stefan Hagen: Stefan will try to take a second look again at the documents [18:46] Stefan Hagen: Andreas will contact Sonia Company from ETSI how we should react (expectation management) [18:46] Stefan Hagen: Meeting adjourned
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