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Subject: Re: Fwd: [dss-x] Markdown code section fixed and rendered as PDF


Hi Chet,

thank you, this pointer helps very much!

And the markdown is the 'authoritative source'! We are really about to
escape from the Word/PDF oligopol!

Greetings,

Andreas

> Hi Andreas,
>
> For an example of an OASIS spec using Markdown as its editorial source,
> take a look at any of the OpenC2 specs. For example, the Language
> Specification currently out for public review is located at
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/openc2/oc2ls/v1.0/csprd01/ . You will find the
> source Markdown and the HTML and PDF outputs.
>
> If you have specific questions, don't hesitate to ask Paul. He has been
> working on the template and processing steps with the editors of OpenC2 and
> by now has a lot of practical knowledge to share.
>
> Best,
>
> /chet
>
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 12:05 PM Andreas Kuehne <kuehne@trustable.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stefan,
>>> [...] we are already working with the OASIS template which is in
>>> development.
>> maybe we get a better idea of the target we are working towards if we
>> can see a 'final' OASIS spec! E.g. I'm still struggeling with the target
>> vision of section numbering. As far as I understand MarkDown there is no
>> section numbering but many tools provide it somehow.
>>
>> I made a quick check with the specifications moved to standard recently.
>> But most of them has a doc / docx file included, none published a
>> markdown file.
>>
>>> As we have chopped the main part of the spec into salami
>>> slices that are in the worst case nerver where we think they are
>>> (regardless of word or markdown) the most interesting part to me
>>> personally is have my fingers understand where to be expected to type
>>> what focused on content and where to keep the fingers still.
>>>
>>> Maybe we should pull the many snippets back into main code and simply
>>> target the code matching some simple one line tags into the spec
>>> prose everytime we push a change?
>> Hmm, maybe we have the same vision how to work with the document!
>>
>> As my brain is somewhat cumbersome I did implement the Word-based
>> approach to MarkDown:
>>
>> - Edit one single document
>>
>> - Let the generator manage the 'Data Structure Models'
>>
>> - Mark the editable / preserved parts in the  'Data Structure Models'
>> ('green' sections)
>>
>> - build a 'final' version without the 'green' sections and markups for
>> publication
>>
>>> The green regions in word already got me paralyzed (because of the
>>> magic or not so magic formating word left the poor editor with in the
>>> final pre-publication stage); if you guys want to keep the new magic
>>> variant with some heavily attributed HTML tag inside the markdown
>>> maybe this works after some gettng used to?
>> It's just a technical handle to detect & preserve the editable parts.
>> Other variants may be possible to implement. But the identification of a
>> section remains the major part of it.
>>> All the best,
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 24.11.18 um 18:59 schrieb Andreas Kuehne:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Detlef raised the question of a MarkDown template for OASIS
>>>> specifications.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe that's just a trained expectation ... the RFC did a good job even
>>>> without a shiny logo. But if it boosts the acceptance of our stuff, I'll
>>>> go with any shiny layout!
>>>>
>>>> Are there OASIS official standards out in a MarkDown-only style?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>>>> Betreff:     AW: [dss-x] Markdown code section fixed and rendered as PDF
>>>> Datum:     Thu, 22 Nov 2018 07:17:42 +0100
>>>> Von:     detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de
>>>> An:     'Andreas Kuehne' <kuehne@trustable.de>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> yes, the "OASIS Template" needs some more polishing to produce
>>>> something, which in the end looks like an OASIS Standard. Could OASIS
>>>> help here?
>>>>
>>>> BR,
>>>> Detlef
>>>>
>>>> -----UrsprÃngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: dss-x@lists.oasis-open.org <dss-x@lists.oasis-open.org> Im Auftrag
>>>> von Andreas Kuehne
>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. November 2018 22:53
>>>> An: dss-x <dss-x@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>>> Betreff: [dss-x] Markdown code section fixed and rendered as PDF
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> see attached the PDF output of the markdown version. The
>>>> 'single-line-code' flaw pointed out by Ernst Jan was an artifact of the
>>>> Word->Markdown conversion.Fixed now.
>>>>
>>>> I discussed the pro and cons of MarkDown and Word with Stefan. My major
>>>> aspects are
>>>>
>>>> - November nearly over and no version ready
>>>>
>>>> - Word is an capricious beast
>>>>
>>>> - MarkDown allows reuse of content in Swagger
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you see other relevant topics?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> --
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>

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mailto: kuehne@trustable.de

Trustable Ltd. Niederlassung Deutschland Gartenheimstr. 39C - 30659 Hannover Amtsgericht Hannover HRB 212612

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