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Subject: Re: [ebcore] Party Id proposal

Title: Re: [ebcore] Party Id proposal
I think it’s useful to have an uniform notation for identifying the namespace / naming scheme for the Party id. So I support this spec. I however don’t know if this can be a specification, because we’ll then need to write a conformance section and I was wondering what our conformance target(s) would be.

Some remarks on the draft:




On 15/02/2010 14:40, "Pim Eijk, van der" <pvde@sonnenglanz.net> wrote:


I got some feedback from potential users confirming my the
interest in pursuing the idea of a "mini spec" on PartyId

So I took the relevant paragraphs of the CPA draft (which is
focussed on one mechanism, based on ISO 9635, based on
requirements from ebXML users in Japan some years ago),
reworked and extended it with some other meta-classification
schemes, and added some (non-normative) discussion of sample
applications that could use a standard URN-based PartyId
type, including CPA, ebMS, UBL, SBDH (plus CEFACT XML and

Please let me know what you think.

If we have a call on Friday, we can discuss it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Pim van der Eijk [mailto:pvde@sonnenglanz.net]
Sent: 07 January 2010 11:56
To: 'Breininger, Kathryn R'; ebcore@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [ebcore] Meeting on Friday, Jan 8th?


I have a topic, but there is no rush so it could wait until
a later meeting.

An idea I would like to discuss relates to last year's
discussion on PartyId:

Could we extract the section on PartyId from the CPA 3.0
draft and publish it as a separate, very small,
The CPA editors would need to agree to it obviously.

- There is a real need among users for something like this.
- If we wait for CPA 3.0 to finish it may be many months,
and it would be buried in a spec that some potential users
will never look into.
- It would be a nice, low-effort deliverable for this TC.

If people agree, I volunteer to do the necessary editing
(mostly cutting and pasting) and formating but the effort is

The proposal would be to be a bit more general and define
three URNs instead of one.

1) urn:oasis:names:tc:ebxml-cppa:partyid-type:iso6523

As described in the PartyId section on CPA 3.0.  When we
post the ICD list on the Wiki, we would have a useful
resource to promote its use


urn:oasis:names:tc:ebxml-cppa:partyid-type:iso6523:0060 is
urn:oasis:names:tc:ebxml-cppa:partyid-type:iso6523:0088 is

Question is whether we keep the "ebxml-cppa" or change to
"ebcore"? Is this better:


2) urn:oasis:names:tc:ebxml-cppa:partyid-type:iso15022

A similar system. It was mentioned by Charles Kilkenny on
the mailing list. Field 95R of ISO 15022 defines a similar
meta-schema, used in financial services. Four character code
identifiers, see
http://www.iso15022.org/Data_Source_Schemes.pdf for an


urn:oasis:names:tc:ebxml-cppa:partyid-type:iso15022:XETR is
"Deutsche Boerse AG: XETRA"
urn:oasis:names:tc:ebxml-cppa:partyid-type:iso15022:XLON is
"London Stock Exchange"

3) urn:oasis:names:tc:ebxml-cppa:partyid-type:unregistered

A standardized prefixes for arbitrary unregistered,
bilaterally agreed code systems.
Of use for people want to use an official IANA-registered
URN but have an unregistered classification scheme.



Unrelated to the above, I posted an ebBP question, but we
can also discuss that during next week ebCore-CPA
SubCommittee meeting.


-----Original Message-----
From: Breininger, Kathryn R
Sent: 07 January 2010 00:11
To: ebcore@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [ebcore] Meeting on Friday, Jan 8th?

Do we have agenda items for our scheduled meeting for ebCORE
on Jan 8th at 11:00 am Pacific Time? If not, our next
regularly scheduled ebCORE meeting would be Jan. 22nd.
Please let me know if you would like to meet this Friday, or

I will be out of country visiting my son and
daughter-in-law, and our brand new grandson in Uganda Jan.
9th- Feb 1st. Josiah Michael was born Dec. 19th at 7 lbs 1
oz, and 19.5 inches long. Mom and baby are doing well, and
Grandma can't wait to hold him! :-)

I will not have access to email during that time. I have set
up the telecon for ebCORE use on Friday Jan. 22nd, so please
go ahead without me if you have agenda items and quorum.


Kathryn Breininger
Manager, Document Authoring & Release
Product Standards Office
Boeing Research & Technology
The Boeing Company

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