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Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Sample Pattern: Receptionist as a Hub


Sorry Matt, I know nothing about publicly chastising anyone.

Joe

Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
> 
> Joe,
> 
> I hardly think it is appropriate for you to publicly chastise me for my
> delivery method here.  My goal in this TC is to promote a usable output that
> adds value for the industry and my company.  I don't own a pair of kid
> gloves.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 9:29 AM
> To: Matthew MacKenzie
> Cc: 'David RR Webber'; 'ebSOA'
> Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Sample Pattern: Receptionist as a Hub
> 
> Let's try and be nice to our fellow TC members please.
> 
> Joe
> 
> Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
> >
> > You should have stuck around during the last meeting and debated this.
> > We've pretty much agreed on using some kind of pattern language.
> >
> > Patterns can be expressed in a fashion that appeals not only to
> programmers,
> > but the other interested folks...although a little programmer-centric
> focus
> > would be good for 'eb' at this point.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info]
> > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 6:27 PM
> > To: Chiusano Joseph; Matthew MacKenzie
> > Cc: ebSOA
> > Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Sample Pattern: Receptionist as a Hub
> >
> > Joe / Matt,
> >
> > I'm not a big fan of picking a pattern language - as
> > that tends to immediately lock you down into
> > programmer land.
> >
> > Since we are 'eb' focused - the BCM approach is
> > saying that there are 'eb' patterns out there that
> > work for specific domains and CoI.  So - go there - makes
> > those available to the community - and tailor them so they
> > drive your solution stack.
> >
> > Some patterns can work great as office documents, others
> > require agent tools, other form guides.  We should not
> > limit ourselves - but rather describe the capabilities the
> > pattern technology needs to enable.
> >
> > The users of the patterns should be able to leverage:
> > context, linking and switching, XML, and scripting, to
> > drive the implementation layer from the logical and
> > conceptual 'eb' layers.
> >
> > This allows the solution providers to work with
> > patterns and technology they know and trust
> > with their CoI, while leveraging the OASIS
> > ebSOA stack as the delivery layer.
> >
> > DW
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
> > To: "Matthew MacKenzie" <mattm@adobe.com>
> > Cc: "ebSOA" <ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 1:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Sample Pattern: Receptionist as a Hub
> >
> > > Thanks Matt. Applying this to technology and integration, I believe the
> > > rough equivalent would be an integration broker.
> > >
> > > If folks agree, what would be the next step given our charter? To show
> > > how an integration broker can be used within an architecture to
> > > communicate between (for example) 2 ebXML-based* systems, or perhaps
> > > from a non-ebXML-based system to one that is?
> > >
> > > Just trying to get an early sense of where this patterns path could take
> > > us, before we go too far with it.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > *we would need to define what "ebXML-based" means, of course
> > >
> > > Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Here is an example of a "Pattern". Patterns can be defined for all
> kinds
> > of processes, not just software development. We may have to do a bit of
> > research on what an appropriate pattern language would be for our work,
> but
> > this is a good example.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> http://www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/computing/research/cseg/projects/pointer/pattern
> > s/receptionistAsAHub/receptionistAsAHub.html
> > > >
> > > > ___________________________
> > > > Matthew MacKenzie
> > > > Senior Architect
> > > > IDBU Server Solutions
> > > > Adobe Systems Canada Inc.
> > > > http://www.adobe.com/products/server/
> > > > mattm@adobe.com
> > > > +1 (506) 871.5409
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kind Regards,
> > > Joseph Chiusano
> > > Associate
> > > Booz | Allen | Hamilton
> > >
> 
> --
> Kind Regards,
> Joseph Chiusano
> Associate
> Booz | Allen | Hamilton

-- 
Kind Regards,
Joseph Chiusano
Associate
Booz | Allen | Hamilton


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