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Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Sample Pattern: Receptionist as a Hub


Duane,

Cough.  Doing your best Lord Nelson impersonation, eh?

OK - would you like to summarize what the consensus is for us?

Thanks, DW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duane Nickull" <dnickull@adobe.com>
To: "Matthew MacKenzie" <mattm@adobe.com>
Cc: "'David RR Webber'" <david@drrw.info>; "'Chiusano Joseph'"
<chiusano_joseph@bah.com>; "'ebSOA'" <ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Sample Pattern: Receptionist as a Hub


> I would say we had consensus on this issue.
>
> Duane
>
> Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
>
> >You should have stuck around during the last meeting and debated this.
> >We've pretty much agreed on using some kind of pattern language.
> >
> >Patterns can be expressed in a fashion that appeals not only to
programmers,
> >but the other interested folks...although a little programmer-centric
focus
> >would be good for 'eb' at this point.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info]
> >Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 6:27 PM
> >To: Chiusano Joseph; Matthew MacKenzie
> >Cc: ebSOA
> >Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Sample Pattern: Receptionist as a Hub
> >
> >Joe / Matt,
> >
> >I'm not a big fan of picking a pattern language - as
> >that tends to immediately lock you down into
> >programmer land.
> >
> >Since we are 'eb' focused - the BCM approach is
> >saying that there are 'eb' patterns out there that
> >work for specific domains and CoI.  So - go there - makes
> >those available to the community - and tailor them so they
> >drive your solution stack.
> >
> >Some patterns can work great as office documents, others
> >require agent tools, other form guides.  We should not
> >limit ourselves - but rather describe the capabilities the
> >pattern technology needs to enable.
> >
> >The users of the patterns should be able to leverage:
> >context, linking and switching, XML, and scripting, to
> >drive the implementation layer from the logical and
> >conceptual 'eb' layers.
> >
> >This allows the solution providers to work with
> >patterns and technology they know and trust
> >with their CoI, while leveraging the OASIS
> >ebSOA stack as the delivery layer.
> >
> >DW
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
> >To: "Matthew MacKenzie" <mattm@adobe.com>
> >Cc: "ebSOA" <ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 1:44 PM
> >Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Sample Pattern: Receptionist as a Hub
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Thanks Matt. Applying this to technology and integration, I believe the
> >>rough equivalent would be an integration broker.
> >>
> >>If folks agree, what would be the next step given our charter? To show
> >>how an integration broker can be used within an architecture to
> >>communicate between (for example) 2 ebXML-based* systems, or perhaps
> >>from a non-ebXML-based system to one that is?
> >>
> >>Just trying to get an early sense of where this patterns path could take
> >>us, before we go too far with it.
> >>
> >>Joe
> >>
> >>*we would need to define what "ebXML-based" means, of course
> >>
> >>Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Here is an example of a "Pattern". Patterns can be defined for all
kinds
> >>>
> >>>
> >of processes, not just software development. We may have to do a bit of
> >research on what an appropriate pattern language would be for our work,
but
> >this is a good example.
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>
>
>http://www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/computing/research/cseg/projects/pointer/patter
n
> >s/receptionistAsAHub/receptionistAsAHub.html
> >
> >
> >>>___________________________
> >>>Matthew MacKenzie
> >>>Senior Architect
> >>>IDBU Server Solutions
> >>>Adobe Systems Canada Inc.
> >>>http://www.adobe.com/products/server/
> >>>mattm@adobe.com
> >>>+1 (506) 871.5409
> >>>
> >>>
> >>-- 
> >>Kind Regards,
> >>Joseph Chiusano
> >>Associate
> >>Booz | Allen | Hamilton
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> -- 
> Senior Standards Strategist
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://www.adobe.com
>
>
>
>



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