Re: [ebsoa] New BPSS V2 editor for ebSOA

["David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>]

Matt,

 

Heck - if you don't want to see what I've been working

on - you don't have to do any of it.

 

However the good news is there are two files at the

link - one is a JPG and the other is an XML file.

 

You can view the JPG and then inspect the XML

that the model generated.  By examining the JPG

you will see the components that go into specifying

a robust business process - and the supporting

linkages to the transport layer, the context system,

and transactions.  Being able to drive all this with

XML templates is IMHO a key need for ebSOA,

and while the BPSS approach may not be perfect -

its certainly one we should be lookiing at to

understand how it relates and can be leveraged.

 

Also - since BPSS is middleware neutral - there is

a strong possibility it can be applied to the ebSOA

deployment environments.

 

Then there is the fact that the BPSS approach is

derived and built-up from over twenty years of

evolving knowledge on business processes - not to

mention - tightly couples to the ebMS interchange

model.

 

But apart from that the patterns it uses might strike

some as being antiquated, while others will see them

as essential foundation business components.

 

I'm just the messenger here ; -)

 

DW

----- Original Message -----

From: Matthew MacKenzie

To: David RR Webber

Cc: ebsoa

Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:44 AM

Subject: Re: [ebsoa] New BPSS V2 editor for ebSOA

Let me get this straight...

I'm supposed to get a copy of your tool, and download a BPSS sample. When I have this, I am somehow better prepared to create a ebSOA model?

Lots of assumptions that I do not care for...

- We will use VisualScript (does it run on Mac OS by the way?)
- We will use BPSS as a foundation technology.
- ...

-Matt
On May 19, 2004, at 10:36 AM, David RR Webber wrote:

Team,
 
I've uploaded the current beta to:
 
 http://drrw.net/visualscripts/
 
You will see the "NEW" BPSS V2 example marked.
 
To use this - download the ZIP file - and unpack it into
the TEMP directory on your C: drive
 
(you can change the path reference in the model - but its
 easier to just unpack it to c:\temp to get started).
 
This new model includes the ability to define Context as
part of the BPSS model - so it gives key insights into
creating process models that manage the business
transactional needs, context, and integration to the
transport layer with ebMS, WSDL, http-binding, RPC
and more.
 
I'm sure this will be a pivot point for getting our ebSOA model
and details honed so that it all works harmoniously.
 
Next I'm working on a quick PPT tutorial - so people can easily
step thru and create their own BPSS from scratch.
 
Enjoy, DW
 
p.s. I'm also looking at the jBPM JBOSS engine - figuring I can
      drive jBPM from the BPSS models....and thus transport
      layer and implement a foundation piece for ebSOA...

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