Re: [ebsoa] Clarification on Patterns

["David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>]

Matt,

YES!  +1

Thanks, DW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew MacKenzie" <mattm@adobe.com>
To: "'David RR Webber'" <david@drrw.info>; "'Chiusano Joseph'"
<chiusano_joseph@bah.com>; "'ebSOA'" <ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:15 AM
Subject: RE: [ebsoa] Clarification on Patterns


> The point of what I am doing is to specify a pattern with various views.
I
> am not ruling out BPSS or UML as part of one of those views.
>
> Architecture has to be of interest to both the builder and the patron.
>
> -Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 4:48 PM
> To: Matthew MacKenzie; 'Chiusano Joseph'; 'ebSOA'
> Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Clarification on Patterns
>
> Matt,
>
> Sounds like you are drinking the BCM Kool-Aid here! ; -)
>
> BCM definately talks about the business way to go after
> finding patterns - while how to define those patterns is
> left as an exercise to the reader - domain specific.
>
> If we are going after an illustrative approach here - that's
> a bit more formal than just using PPT to draw boxes and
> lines - then I can grok that, eh?!
>
> Thanks, DW
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Matthew MacKenzie" <mattm@adobe.com>
> To: "'Chiusano Joseph'" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>; "'ebSOA'"
> <ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 2:25 PM
> Subject: RE: [ebsoa] Clarification on Patterns
>
>
> > Take a look at what I am proposing in the latest draft.  Its not so much
a
> > pattern language as a template for describing the abstract patterns we
are
> > addressing.
> >
> > Thanks, Matt
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 8:09 AM
> > To: ebSOA
> > Subject: [ebsoa] Clarification on Patterns
> >
> > I'm taking a step back and re-examining our discussions on patterns that
> > have occurred over the past several weeks, and have some questions
> > please:
> >
> > (1) I know we've said that we've decided that we would create a pattern
> > language - is that what we *really* want? Is it too low-level (i.e.
> > toward assembly language) for the purposes of this TC? Patterns can be
> > conveyed without the use of a pattern language, as IBM does in their SOA
> > Patterns redbook.
> >
> > (2) What are some examples of existing pattern languages? I did not see
> > any glaring references in any of the e-mail threads.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Joe
> > -- 
> > Kind Regards,
> > Joseph Chiusano
> > Associate
> > Booz | Allen | Hamilton
> >
> >
>
>
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