Re: [ebsoa] SOA BUP (was - Quick answers to David's questions)

["Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>]

Duane Nickull wrote:
> 
> +1 - I believe that having Business Use Patterns is important in order
> to map those to the SOA patterns.  That is the differentiator that our
> architecture is specific to those business patterns.
> 
> The problem will be deciding what level of granularity to go into each
> business pattern or how many we do.  Perhaps we embrace a methodology
> for allowing people to define their own patterns.  

Please pardon me if this was discussed on the last call (which I could
not attend): I wonder if there is really is more value in actually
providing patterns rather than a methodology. I have a hunch that in
defining a methodology, we might need to go so far as defining the
actual patterns - else it would be incomplete.

For example, a methodology could start out (roughly) as:

(1) Define all entities in your architecture
(2) Identify all data exchange points
(3) Identify the type of data (in general) that needs to be exchanged
(4) If the type of data is transactional (i.e. purchase order/invoice),
then the pattern is "Transactional"

IOW, I could not stop short of (4) without completing the methodology
(or at least the rough example here), which required me to identify a
pattern.

Thoughts?

Joe


> It would be arrogant
> of us to think that we, as a group, could define all the patterns that
> would ever be used by business on a global scale IMO.
> 
> The best course of action will be to probably black box the methodology
> for now, just say there is one, that allow people to capture the
> business lexicon in a series of artifacts, some of which should be BUP??
> 
> I know that BCM, UMM, RUP and other methodologies have driven at this
> for years.
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Two reminder as chair:
> 
> First - let's make sure we don;t cc people who we know are on the list.
>  We only needone copy each.
> 
> Second - we should try to keep the thread titles specific to the
> content.  I changed this one to SOA BUP.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> /d
> 
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Joseph Chiusano
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