Re: [ebsoa] Proposal to change TC front page

["Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>]

Absolutely. But sometimes such refinement and improvement is done before
the scope and direction of a new OASIS TC is made widely public. :)

Joe
(not trying to be a smart-a_s)

David RR Webber wrote:
> 
> Joe,
> 
> I'm thinking we can refine and improve here - to ensure we're
> covering the right bases...
> 
> DW
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
> To: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>
> Cc: "Duane Nickull" <dnickull@adobe.com>; <ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 8:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Proposal to change TC front page
> 
> > From a public perspective, given the level of press that this TC was
> > given up to our initial F2F: Is there any negative side to changing the
> > purpose so drastically? I'm just thinking how some folks may have "had
> > their hopes up" regarding the updates to the TA v1.04, and such.
> > Overall, this may not matter - but it's certainly a consideration.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Joe
> >
> > David RR Webber wrote:
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > I think we have to find wording we like first - then decide if it trips
> > > any wires.
> > >
> > > I like a chunk of what Duane wrote - but I'd wordsmith other
> > > parts to make it less clumsy...
> > >
> > > DW.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
> > > To: "Duane Nickull" <dnickull@adobe.com>
> > > Cc: <ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 8:01 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Proposal to change TC front page
> > >
> > > > Asking solely out of curiousity regarding OASIS procedures:
> > > >
> > > > It seems to me that the change in purpose stated below would affect
> the
> > > > charter. If this is correct, how is such an alteration of charter
> > > > (possibly considered a major one) handled within OASIS?
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > Duane Nickull wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Team:
> > > > >
> > > > > Given the current direction of our group, it has been brought to my
> > > > > attention that the public page, which states:
> > > > >
> > > > > " The purpose of the TC is to continue work on the ebXML Technical
> > > > > Architecture to bring it from v1.04 to a more current architecture
> that
> > > > > takes into account both subsequent releases of the ebXML
> specifications
> > > > > and other Web Services and service-oriented architecture works."
> > > > >
> > > > > is probably no longer correctly describing what we are doing.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would propose that we change it to something along the lines of:
> > > > >
> > > > > " The purpose of the TC is to build upon the work of both ebXML and
> web
> > > > > services to develop a formal Service Oriented Architecture (SOA)
> > > > > specification embracing the requirements of global electronic
> business.
> > > > >  The architecture will utilize the methodologies of Web Services and
> > > > > ebXML specifications however remain neutral to prescribing either."
> > > > >
> > > > > or something to that effect.
> > > > >
> > > > > The purposes is to reflect that we have become a convergence point
> of
> > > > > SOA activity and have a duty to build upon both but like any good
> > > > > architecture, must not constrain implementations to using either.  I
> > > > > believe this will have a high degree of value in that the principles
> of
> > > > > SOA can be explored for business users and implementers without
> treading
> > > > > in political waters.
> > > > >
> > > > > We can likely define areas where web services has gaps that ebXML
> covers
> > > > > and places where convergence may be best suited to bring the two
> stacks
> > > > > as close together as possible.  This will likely start with an
> > > > > architectural convergence (actually more of a reconciliation) since
> we
> > > > > cannot normatively prescribe action to any other.
> > > > >
> > > > > Comments?
> > > > >
> > > > > Duane
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Senior Standards Strategist
> > > > > Adobe Systems, Inc.
> > > > > http://www.adobe.com
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > Joseph Chiusano
> > > > Associate
> > > > Booz Allen Hamilton
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Kind Regards,
> > Joseph Chiusano
> > Associate
> > Booz Allen Hamilton
> >

-- 
Kind Regards,
Joseph Chiusano
Associate
Booz Allen Hamilton