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Subject: RE: [ebsoa] Draft Minutes from F2F

Actually an SOA Reference Model does exist.  It has been published by the
CBDI Forum. http://www.cbdiforum.com. The first part appeared in their March
2004 journal and the second in June 2004.  Unfortunately I cannot release
that information to you since it has been acquired through a paid corporate
subscription.  Suggest that you try to contact the organization directly for
further information.


Diane Mularz 

-----Original Message-----
From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:08 AM
To: ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [ebsoa] Draft Minutes from F2F

Apologize for the late message.  My OASIS account had been accidentally 
deleted and messages I sent through did not get onto the list.

By now most of you have probably read the draft minutes from the face to 
face.  Based on the information we have learned since starting this TC, 
it is now obvious that before anyone can develop a specialized SOA, a 
higher level SOA Reference Model needs to be defined.  No such Reference 
Model exists today, therefore, it would be imprudent to continue to work 
in our current direction without starting the high level reference 
model.  Please review the minutes before reading further.

Since there is limited resources in the TC, the members present at the 
F2F decided to focus on the SOA Reference Model first.  Such work is 
inconsistent with our charter so we have a hurdle to get over.  OASIS 
will help us with that.

There are a number of questions that we do have to consider. 

1. Political impact of our decision - It is the intent of the TC that no 
SPINS be placed on our decision.  It is a simple decision taken based on 
technical knowledge and a pragmatic TC that recognizes and is willing to 
face the architectural challenges that are laid out in front of us.  I 
personally would hope that no one thinks we are abandoning either ebXML 
or web service standards.  That is not the intent.  There is a strong 
recognition that an SOA reference model may also help anyone trying to 
converge or reconcile those two stacks.

2. We anticipate that the SOA reference model work should be relatively 
short and completed within a new TC.  We drafted a new TC charter and 
will be working with OASIS to figure out how to start the new TC.  In 
the process,  we have to also figure out what course should happen with 
this existing TC.  We have a few options:

a. Have members who wish to work on the current charter continue to 
develop the existing work under the existing charter.
b. Fold the current TC; or
c. Take a hiatus from activity in the current TC, then revisit it once 
the SOA reference model is done.

Any comments or interest on this would be appreciated.

3. What should happen to the work within the TC?  We have a very good 
(IMO) reference model for architectural patterns that may be of great 
use for others within OASIS and beyond.

Our next meeting is one week from today.  Regular dial in, code is 7263329.

Duane Nickull

Senior Standards Strategist - Adobe Systems, Inc. - http://www.adobe.com
Vice Chair - UN/CEFACT Bureau Plenary - http://www.unece.org/cefact/
Chair - OASIS eb SOA TC -

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