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Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Draft Minutes from F2F


Yes - we saw this during our Face to Face however it is not freely 
available (legally) nor is it an approved, royalty free standard.  It is 
a proprietary work and also makes reference to specific technologies 
such as WSDL  which is inconsistent with our vision of an architectural 
reference model.

There is a lot of good stuff in it however. 

It is also available for free from:
without the free paid corporate subscription.


Diane Mularz wrote:

>Actually an SOA Reference Model does exist.  It has been published by the
>CBDI Forum. http://www.cbdiforum.com. The first part appeared in their March
>2004 journal and the second in June 2004.  Unfortunately I cannot release
>that information to you since it has been acquired through a paid corporate
>subscription.  Suggest that you try to contact the organization directly for
>further information.
>Diane Mularz 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com] 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:08 AM
>To: ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org
>Subject: [ebsoa] Draft Minutes from F2F
>Apologize for the late message.  My OASIS account had been accidentally 
>deleted and messages I sent through did not get onto the list.
>By now most of you have probably read the draft minutes from the face to 
>face.  Based on the information we have learned since starting this TC, 
>it is now obvious that before anyone can develop a specialized SOA, a 
>higher level SOA Reference Model needs to be defined.  No such Reference 
>Model exists today, therefore, it would be imprudent to continue to work 
>in our current direction without starting the high level reference 
>model.  Please review the minutes before reading further.
>Since there is limited resources in the TC, the members present at the 
>F2F decided to focus on the SOA Reference Model first.  Such work is 
>inconsistent with our charter so we have a hurdle to get over.  OASIS 
>will help us with that.
>There are a number of questions that we do have to consider. 
>1. Political impact of our decision - It is the intent of the TC that no 
>SPINS be placed on our decision.  It is a simple decision taken based on 
>technical knowledge and a pragmatic TC that recognizes and is willing to 
>face the architectural challenges that are laid out in front of us.  I 
>personally would hope that no one thinks we are abandoning either ebXML 
>or web service standards.  That is not the intent.  There is a strong 
>recognition that an SOA reference model may also help anyone trying to 
>converge or reconcile those two stacks.
>2. We anticipate that the SOA reference model work should be relatively 
>short and completed within a new TC.  We drafted a new TC charter and 
>will be working with OASIS to figure out how to start the new TC.  In 
>the process,  we have to also figure out what course should happen with 
>this existing TC.  We have a few options:
>a. Have members who wish to work on the current charter continue to 
>develop the existing work under the existing charter.
>b. Fold the current TC; or
>c. Take a hiatus from activity in the current TC, then revisit it once 
>the SOA reference model is done.
>Any comments or interest on this would be appreciated.
>3. What should happen to the work within the TC?  We have a very good 
>(IMO) reference model for architectural patterns that may be of great 
>use for others within OASIS and beyond.
>Our next meeting is one week from today.  Regular dial in, code is 7263329.
>Duane Nickull

Senior Standards Strategist - Adobe Systems, Inc. - http://www.adobe.com
Vice Chair - UN/CEFACT Bureau Plenary - http://www.unece.org/cefact/
Chair - OASIS eb SOA TC - http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa

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