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Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum submission
Carol and Jamie - I have copied George W. Brown, Vasco Drecun and Sally St. Amand, as they will be attending the meeting, and George will be giving the address describing the FERA based SOA, and Vasco and Sally will sit on a panel that will discuss the same in a question / answer sort of way. I believe that I have committment from all three. I have copied the rest of the TC for an FYI. Unfortunately neither I nor Goran will be able to attend... In addition, I have asked that they act as official representatives of the ebSOA TC, and describe the activities of the TC, the planned ebXML Technical Architecture v2.0 and the impact that federated soa architectures will have on IT in the near future. One of the primary drivers for our TC is to ensure that we are as closely aligned as we can be with the other SOA focused TC's, so that overall we are all supporting each other instead of appearing fragmented. George, please take note of Jamie's instruction here regarding how we represent ourselves and our TC at this meeting: Carol Geyer wrote: > Actually, we have a web page that addresses this issue: http://www.oasis-open.org/private/presenting.php. John, please review and > let me know if you have any questions or if I can help in any way. > > Carol > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Bryce Clark [mailto:jamie.clark@oasis-open.org] > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 7:38 PM > To: john@maphin.net > Cc: carol.geyer@oasis-open.org > Subject: Fwd: [ebsoa] Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum submission > > Hi John. I am sharing with Carol so she can give it her eye as well. Glad to hear you're doing this, but we have our message > sync issues > too: Obviously including > > -- Caution in making clear when you're speaking for you, versus for a TC you chair. > -- There is no "OASIS Technical Architecture" -- so that reference will need to be corrected -- maybe there's an OASIS-authored > "ebXML" TA v2.0 in the works. References to it need to be clear about whether it exists or is in process. > -- Obviously the other ebXML TCs (and other OASIS projects) reserve the right to speak for themselves. > > Also be advised there may be other OASIS SOA-oriented presentations at that > meeting. I'll let you know as soon as I'm clear about that. Not trying > to throw too much cold water here, it looks like a great event, I just wanted to give you a heads-up about the parameters of > speaking foe an OASIS TC. Carol will be more informative (and nicer too no doubt). > > Regards Jamie > > > Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:45:38 -0400 > >>From: John Hardin <john@maphin.net> >>User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) >>X-Accept-Language: en-us, en >>To: John Hardin <john@maphin.net> >>CC: Jill_Martay@infoworld.com, >> "Brown, George W" <george.w.brown@intel.com>, >> ebSOA <ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org> >>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2005 21:45:44.0839 (UTC) >>FILETIME=[7D1CF970:01C5BD63] >>X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on >> hermes.oasis-open.org >>X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=none autolearn=no >>version=2.64 >>X-Spam-Level: >>Subject: [ebsoa] Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum submission >> >>Jill, here is the abstract for the additional panel session we are >>suggesting. We will have several SOA experts in attendance to sit on >>the panel. This is an accompanyment for George W. Brown's presentation: >> >>"This panel discussion will feature leading pioneers in SOA based >>architectures, including OASIS SOA, ebXML and Web Services specs leaders. >>Topics will cover shortfalls of the existing framework that has driven >>adoption of SOA up to this point, and the planned work that will >>provide a complete architectural guideline for stable, enterprise ready >>SOA's. The panel is currently working toward completion of the upcoming >>OASIS Technical Architecture 2.0, with FERA-based SOA Information >>Models providing the complete framework for the next generation of >>distributed application networking." >> >>John Hardin wrote: >> >>>Jill, >>>I chair the OASIS ebSOA technical committee (see the sig at the >>>bottom) and am submitting this information for the SOA Conference. I >>>have completed the form online with the information included here also. >>>Here is the abstract: >>>"This presentation will introduce methods and a set of principles and >>>guidelines for consistently and accurately deploying value chain >>>processes within a SOA. The approach is based on a two-tiered >>>framework, Integrated Process and Technology Framework, in which >>>business semantics are first defined through applicaton of a value >>>chain reference model, VCOR (Value Chain Operations Reference model), >>>and then a conceptual architecture, FERA (Federated Enterprise >>>Reference Architecture), facilitates mapping business collaboration >>>patterns to the appropriate capabilities within a SOA infrastructure. >>>The transformation of the models of collaborative process patterns to >>>the SOA runtime environment is accomplished through a SOA Informaton >>>Model that is part of a proposed SOA standard. The FERA-based SOA >>>specifications will be introduced to describe how they provide full >>>enterprise-level SOA support from both a functional as well as >>>implementational point of view. The presentation utilizes a supply >>>chain use case, Logistics Network Services, to illustrate how the >>>fully defined SOA collaboration semantics resolve the problem of semantic integration." >>> >>>George, here is what I submitted for you: >>>Speaker First Name* George >>>Speaker Last Name* Brown >>>Speaker Title* Senior Program Manager, Value Chain Integration >>>Company* Intel Corp >>>Street Address* 2200 Mission College Blvd. >>>City* Santa Clara >>>State* CA >>>Zip Code* 95052 >>>Country US of A >>>Phone* 800-628-8686 >>>Fax >>>Email* george.w.brown@intel.com >>>Speaker type* Analyst/Practitioner >>>Session type* Analyst/Practitioner Discussion >>>Primary Job Function (limit 50 words)* Responsible for driving >>>cross-functional strategic analysis/planning teams to methods and >>>tools to ensure Intel reaches its goals in Supply Chain Management. >>> >>>Bio (approx 100 words)* >>>George has served three terms on the Supply Chain Council Board of >>>Directors, having been Chair of the Council in 2002-2003 and the SCC >>>R&D Strategy Committee. George Is currently on the Board of Directors >>>for the Value Chain Group. Before joining Intel worked as a Senior >>>Staff Specialist and Software Architect at GDE Systems, Inc., a Senior >>>Program Manager at SAIC and a Principal Software Engineer at Digital >>>Equipment Corporation. George has advanced degrees in Aerospace >>>Engineering from Georgia Institute of Technology. >>> >>>Proposed Conference Format* >>>Powerpoint presentation and speaking. >>> >>>Proposed Session Title* >>>SOA Principles and FERA (Federated Enterprise Reference Architecture) >>> >>>What Attendees Will Learn from this Speaker (3-5 bullet points on the >>>Speaker's area of expertise)* >>>- mapping business collaboration patterns to the appropriate >>>capabilities within a SOA infrastructure >>>- transformation of the models of collaborative process patterns to >>>the SOA runtime environment >>>- SOA Information Models required to accomplish stable, flexible and >>>comprehensive Service Oriented Architectures >>> >>>Who Should Attend (limit 50 words)* >>>Sr. Technologists >>>CTO's and CIO's >>>Lead Engineers and Architects >>> >>>Audio/Visual Requirements* >>>Projector & Microphone >>> >>>Presentation Materials (PowerPoint, hand outs, etc.)* Powerpoint and >>>handouts >>> >>>Does this speaker agree to video and/or audio recording?* Yes If you >>>are completing this for a speaker, plese complete the following >>>fields: >>>Contact First Name* john >>>Contact Last Name* hardin >>>Contact Title* cto >>>Contact Company* MedAccessPlus Health Informatics Network >>>Street Address* 123 Town Square >>>City* Manchester >>>State* Kentucky >>>Zip Code* 40962 >>>Phone Number* 606.596.1061 >>>E-mail Address* john@maphin.net >>> >>>Brown, George W wrote: >>> >>> >>>>John, I confirm. George >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>--- >>>> >>>>*From:* Hamid Ben Malek [mailto:HMalek@us.fujitsu.com] >>>>*Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2005 10:30 AM >>>>*To:* John Hardin >>>>*Cc:* Brown, George W; Goran Zugic; vasco.drecun@cpd-associates.com; >>>>David RR Webber; Sally St. Amand >>>>*Subject:* RE: InfoWorld SOA Forum >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Sorry I can't participate. I will be in Redmond Washington for the >>>>WS-RX F2F. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Hamid. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: John Hardin [mailto:john@maphin.net] >>>>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:22 AM >>>>To: Sally St. Amand >>>>Cc: Brown, George W; Goran Zugic; vasco.drecun@cpd-associates.com; >>>>David RR Webber; Hamid Ben Malek >>>>Subject: Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum >>>>Importance: High >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>OK, it looks like we will have George presenting the primary >>>> >>>>presentation and Sally, Vasco and George and possibly David Webber on >>>> >>>>the panel. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Let me know today if this works for all - I will complete the >>>> >>>>registration of the abstracts once I recieve OK from all. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>john >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Sally St. Amand wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> George >>>> >>>> >>>>> Your presenting provides a strong voice for ebSOA-FERA. I am >>>>>planning on >>>> >>>> >>>>> attending but feel as though I am still validating concepts and >>>> >>>> >>>>> approaches with the work you all have done. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> While you were not part of the conversation on Thurs, for me more >>>>>of >>>> >>>> >>>>> those conversations will insure agreement and an ability to >>>>>advance the >>>> >>>> >>>>> work as we build off each others ideas. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> The conversation was on orchestration. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I found the discussion valuable I would hope we can schedule like >>>> >>>> >>>>> discussion on future concalls and follow them up with specifics in >>>> >>>> >>>>> emails (or a wiki, if I can dare to dream). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sally >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> */"Brown, George W" <george.w.brown@intel.com>/* wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Goran, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I did respond that I could go if it makes sense for me to >>>>>represent >>>> >>>> >>>>> the ebsoa TC. I would certainly abdicate to Vasco or join him >>>>>if >>>> >>>> >>>>> agreed. Let me know. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> George >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>--- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> *From:* Goran Zugic [mailto:goran.zugic@semantion.com] >>>> >>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2005 5:53 PM >>>> >>>> >>>>> *To:* Sally St. Amand; Brown, George W; >>>> >>>> >>>>> vasco.drecun@cpd-associates.com; john@maphin.net; David RR >>>>>Webber; >>>> >>>> >>>>> hmalek@us.fujitsu.com >>>> >>>> >>>>> *Subject:* InfoWorld SOA Forum >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I keep this between us editors for now until we see if we'll be >>>>>able >>>> >>>> >>>>> to submit the abstracts. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> John has not sent the abstracts for the SOA Executive Forum >>>>>yet. He >>>> >>>> >>>>> has not got any response from the list when asking who was able >>>>>to >>>> >>>> >>>>> attend. I will not be able to go. John cannot make it either. >>>>>My >>>> >>>> >>>>> understanding is that Sally can go. I think that if George >>>>>and/or >>>> >>>> >>>>> Vasco and/or David can also go we should submit the abstracts. >>>>>For >>>> >>>> >>>>> now we have two abstracts: one from George and another one from >>>> >>>> >>>>> John. We can still make it depending on who else can also go. >>>>>The >>>> >>>> >>>>> deadline is this Monday Sept 19th. InfoWorld is a big >>>>>publication >>>> >>>> >>>>> and I believe that we could get a nice "initial publicity" for >>>>>the >>>> >>>> >>>>> ebSOA TC SOA work over there. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> George's Abstract >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> =================== >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> "This presentation will introduce methods and a set of >>>>>principles >>>> >>>> >>>>> and guidelines for consistently and accurately deploying value >>>>>chain >>>> >>>> >>>>> processes within a SOA. The approach is based on a two-tiered >>>> >>>> >>>>> framework, Integrated Process and Technology Framework, in >>>>>which >>>> >>>> >>>>> business semantics are first defined through applicaton of a >>>>>value >>>> >>>> >>>>> chain reference model, VCOR (Value Chain Operations Reference >>>> >>>> >>>>> model), and then a conceptual architecture, FERA (Federated >>>> >>>> >>>>> Enterprise Reference Architecture), facilitates mapping >>>>>business >>>> >>>> >>>>> collaboration patterns to the appropriate capabilities within a >>>>>SOA >>>> >>>> >>>>> infrastructure. The transformation of the models of >>>>>collaborative >>>> >>>> >>>>> process patterns to the SOA runtime environment is accomplished >>>> >>>> >>>>> through a SOA Informaton Model that is part of a proposed SOA >>>> >>>> >>>>> standard. The FERA-based SOA specifications will be introduced >>>>>to >>>> >>>> >>>>> describe how they provide full enterprise-level SOA support >>>>>from >>>> >>>> >>>>> both a functional as well as implementational point of view. >>>>>The >>>> >>>> >>>>> presentation utilizes a supply chain use case, Logistics >>>>>Network >>>> >>>> >>>>> Services, to illustrate how the fully defined SOA collaboration >>>> >>>> >>>>> semantics resolve the problem of semantic integration." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> John's Abstract for the panel dicussion >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> =========================== >>>> >>>> >>>>> "This panel discussion will feature leading pioneers in SOA >>>>>based >>>> >>>> >>>>> architectures, including OASIS SOA, ebXML and Web Services >>>>>specs >>>> >>>> >>>>> leaders. Topics will cover shortfalls of the existing framework >>>>>that >>>> >>>> >>>>> has driven adoption of SOA up to this point, and the planned >>>>>work >>>> >>>> >>>>> that will provide a complete architectural guideline for >>>>>stable, >>>> >>>> >>>>> enterprise ready SOA's. The panel is currently working toward >>>> >>>> >>>>> completion of the upcoming OASIS Technical Architecture 2.0, >>>>>with >>>> >>>> >>>>> FERA-based SOA Information Models providing the complete >>>>>framework >>>> >>>> >>>>> for the next generation of distributed application networking." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> SOA Executive Forum InfoWorld link >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> http://www.infoworld.com/event/speaker_form.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> What do you think? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Goran >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>> >>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>~ >>>> >>>>| john c hardin >>>> >>>>| Chief Technology Officer >>>> >>>>| http://www.maphin.net >>>> >>>>| 606.598.7353 office >>>> >>>>| 606.813.4316 cell >>>> >>>>| mailto:john@maphin.net >>>> >>>>| >>>> >>>>| Chair - OASIS ebSOA Technical Committee >>>> >>>>| http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa >>>> >>>>| >>>> >>>>| >>>> >>>>| "The new electronic interdependence recreates the world in the >>>> >>>>| image of a global village." >>>> >>>>| >>>> >>>>| Marshall McLuhan, "Gutenberg Galaxy", 1962 >>>> >>>>|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>|~ >> >>-- >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>| john c hardin >>| Chief Technology Officer >>| http://www.maphin.net >>| 606.598.7353 office >>| 606.813.4316 cell >>| mailto:john@maphin.net >>| >>| Chair - OASIS ebSOA Technical Committee >>| http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa >>| >>| >>| "The new electronic interdependence recreates the world in the >>| image of a global village." >>| >>| Marshall McLuhan, "Gutenberg Galaxy", 1962 >>|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> > > > > > > > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | john c hardin | Chief Technology Officer | http://www.maphin.net | 606.598.7353 office | 606.813.4316 cell | mailto:john@maphin.net | | Chair - OASIS ebSOA Technical Committee | http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa | | | "The new electronic interdependence recreates the world in the | image of a global village." | | Marshall McLuhan, "Gutenberg Galaxy", 1962 |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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