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Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum submission


Thanks George, greatly appreciated. I have every confidence that you 
will represent the group in the best manner possible.

Best regards, thanks for being at this meeting.
John

Brown, George W wrote:
> John,
> 
> I have taken note of expectation of how we represent ourselves and our
> TC at this meeting.
> 
> George
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hardin [mailto:john@maphin.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 6:29 AM
> To: Carol Geyer
> Cc: 'James Bryce Clark'; vasco.drecun@cpd-associates.com; Brown, George
> W; Goran Zugic; Sally St. Amand; ebSOA
> Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum submission
> 
> Carol and Jamie -
> 
> I have copied George W. Brown, Vasco Drecun and Sally St. Amand, as they
> 
> will be attending the meeting, and George will be giving the address 
> describing the FERA based SOA, and Vasco and Sally will sit on a panel 
> that will discuss the same in a question / answer sort of way. I believe
> 
> that I have committment from all three. I have copied the rest of the TC
> 
> for an FYI. Unfortunately neither I nor Goran will be able to attend...
> 
> In addition, I have asked that they act as official representatives of 
> the ebSOA TC, and describe the activities of the TC, the planned ebXML 
> Technical Architecture v2.0 and the impact that federated soa 
> architectures will have on IT in the near future. One of the primary 
> drivers for our TC is to ensure that we are as closely aligned as we can
> 
> be with the other SOA focused TC's, so that overall we are all 
> supporting each other instead of appearing fragmented.
> 
> George, please take note of Jamie's instruction here regarding how we 
> represent ourselves and our TC at this meeting:
> 
> 
> 
> Carol Geyer wrote:
> 
>>Actually, we have a web page that addresses this issue:
> 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/private/presenting.php. John, please review
> and
> 
>>let me know if you have any questions or if I can help in any way.
>>
>>Carol 
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: James Bryce Clark [mailto:jamie.clark@oasis-open.org] 
>>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 7:38 PM
>>To: john@maphin.net
>>Cc: carol.geyer@oasis-open.org
>>Subject: Fwd: [ebsoa] Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum submission
>>
>>     Hi John.  I am sharing with Carol so she can give it her eye as
> 
> well.  Glad to hear you're doing this, but we have our message
> 
>>sync issues
>>too:  Obviously including
>>
>>    -- Caution in making clear when you're speaking for you, versus
> 
> for a TC you chair.
> 
>>    -- There is no "OASIS Technical Architecture" -- so that reference
> 
> will need to be corrected -- maybe there's an OASIS-authored
> 
>>"ebXML" TA v2.0  in the works.  References to it need to be clear
> 
> about whether it exists or is in process.
> 
>>   -- Obviously the other ebXML TCs (and other OASIS projects)
> 
> reserve the right to speak for themselves.
> 
>>Also be advised there may be other OASIS SOA-oriented presentations at
> 
> that 
> 
>>meeting.  I'll let you know as soon as I'm clear about that.   Not
> 
> trying 
> 
>>to throw too much cold water here, it looks like a great event, I just
> 
> wanted to give you a heads-up about the parameters of
> 
>>speaking foe an OASIS TC.  Carol will be more informative (and nicer
> 
> too no doubt).
> 
>>     Regards  Jamie
>>
>>
>>Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:45:38 -0400
>>
>>
>>>From: John Hardin <john@maphin.net>
>>>User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206)
>>>X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
>>>To: John Hardin <john@maphin.net>
>>>CC: Jill_Martay@infoworld.com,
>>>"Brown, George W" <george.w.brown@intel.com>,
>>>ebSOA <ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2005 21:45:44.0839 (UTC) 
>>>FILETIME=[7D1CF970:01C5BD63]
>>>X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on
>>>       hermes.oasis-open.org
>>>X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=none autolearn=no 
>>>version=2.64
>>>X-Spam-Level:
>>>Subject: [ebsoa] Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum submission
>>>
>>>Jill, here is the abstract for the additional panel session we are 
>>>suggesting. We will have several SOA experts in attendance to sit on 
>>>the panel. This is an accompanyment for George W. Brown's
> 
> presentation:
> 
>>>"This panel discussion will feature leading pioneers in SOA based 
>>>architectures, including OASIS SOA, ebXML and Web Services specs
> 
> leaders.
> 
>>>Topics will cover shortfalls of the existing framework that has driven
> 
> 
>>>adoption of SOA up to this point, and the planned work that will 
>>>provide a complete architectural guideline for stable, enterprise
> 
> ready 
> 
>>>SOA's. The panel is currently working toward completion of the
> 
> upcoming 
> 
>>>OASIS Technical Architecture 2.0, with FERA-based SOA Information 
>>>Models providing the complete framework for the next generation of 
>>>distributed application networking."
>>>
>>>John Hardin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jill,
>>>>I chair the OASIS ebSOA technical committee (see the sig at the 
>>>>bottom) and am submitting this information for the SOA Conference. I 
>>>>have completed the form online with the information included here
> 
> also.
> 
>>>>Here is the abstract:
>>>>"This presentation will introduce methods and a set of principles and
> 
> 
>>>>guidelines for consistently and accurately deploying value chain 
>>>>processes within a SOA. The approach is based on a two-tiered 
>>>>framework, Integrated Process and Technology Framework, in which 
>>>>business semantics are first defined through applicaton of a value 
>>>>chain reference model, VCOR (Value Chain Operations Reference model),
> 
> 
>>>>and then a conceptual architecture, FERA (Federated Enterprise 
>>>>Reference Architecture), facilitates mapping business collaboration 
>>>>patterns to the appropriate capabilities within a SOA infrastructure.
> 
> 
>>>>The transformation of the models of collaborative process patterns to
> 
> 
>>>>the SOA runtime environment is accomplished through a SOA Informaton 
>>>>Model that is part of a proposed SOA standard. The FERA-based SOA 
>>>>specifications will be introduced to describe how they provide full 
>>>>enterprise-level SOA support from both a functional as well as 
>>>>implementational point of view. The presentation utilizes a supply 
>>>>chain use case, Logistics Network Services, to illustrate how the 
>>>>fully defined SOA collaboration semantics resolve the problem of
> 
> semantic integration."
> 
>>>>George, here is what I submitted for you:
>>>>Speaker First Name*    George
>>>>Speaker Last Name*    Brown
>>>>Speaker Title*        Senior Program Manager, Value Chain Integration
>>>>Company*        Intel Corp
>>>>Street Address*        2200 Mission College Blvd.
>>>>City*            Santa Clara
>>>>State*            CA
>>>>Zip Code*        95052
>>>>Country            US of A
>>>>Phone*            800-628-8686
>>>>Fax
>>>>Email*            george.w.brown@intel.com
>>>>Speaker type*        Analyst/Practitioner
>>>>Session type*        Analyst/Practitioner Discussion
>>>>Primary Job Function (limit 50 words)* Responsible for driving 
>>>>cross-functional strategic analysis/planning teams to methods and 
>>>>tools to ensure Intel reaches its goals in Supply Chain Management.
>>>>
>>>>Bio (approx 100 words)*
>>>>George has served three terms on the Supply Chain Council Board of 
>>>>Directors, having been Chair of the Council in 2002-2003 and the SCC 
>>>>R&D Strategy Committee. George Is currently on the Board of Directors
> 
> 
>>>>for the Value Chain Group. Before joining Intel worked as a Senior 
>>>>Staff Specialist and Software Architect at GDE Systems, Inc., a
> 
> Senior 
> 
>>>>Program Manager at SAIC and a Principal Software Engineer at Digital 
>>>>Equipment Corporation. George has advanced degrees in Aerospace 
>>>>Engineering from Georgia Institute of Technology.
>>>>
>>>>Proposed Conference Format*
>>>>Powerpoint presentation and speaking.
>>>>
>>>>Proposed Session Title*
>>>>SOA Principles and FERA (Federated Enterprise Reference Architecture)
>>>>
>>>>What Attendees Will Learn from this Speaker (3-5 bullet points on the
> 
> 
>>>>Speaker's area of expertise)*
>>>>- mapping business collaboration patterns to the appropriate 
>>>>capabilities within a SOA infrastructure
>>>>- transformation of the models of collaborative process patterns to 
>>>>the SOA runtime environment
>>>>- SOA Information Models required to accomplish stable, flexible and 
>>>>comprehensive Service Oriented Architectures
>>>>
>>>>Who Should Attend (limit 50 words)*
>>>>Sr. Technologists
>>>>CTO's and CIO's
>>>>Lead Engineers and Architects
>>>>
>>>>Audio/Visual Requirements*
>>>>Projector & Microphone
>>>>
>>>>Presentation Materials (PowerPoint, hand outs, etc.)* Powerpoint and 
>>>>handouts
>>>>
>>>>Does this speaker agree to video and/or audio recording?* Yes If you 
>>>>are completing this for a speaker, plese complete the following
>>>>fields:
>>>>Contact First Name* john
>>>>Contact Last Name*  hardin
>>>>Contact Title*        cto
>>>>Contact Company*    MedAccessPlus Health Informatics Network
>>>>Street Address*        123 Town Square
>>>>City*            Manchester
>>>>State*            Kentucky
>>>>Zip Code*        40962
>>>>Phone Number*        606.596.1061
>>>>E-mail Address*        john@maphin.net
>>>>
>>>>Brown, George W wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>John, I confirm. George
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> -
> 
>>>>>---
>>>>>
>>>>>*From:* Hamid Ben Malek [mailto:HMalek@us.fujitsu.com]
>>>>>*Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2005 10:30 AM
>>>>>*To:* John Hardin
>>>>>*Cc:* Brown, George W; Goran Zugic; vasco.drecun@cpd-associates.com;
> 
> 
>>>>>David RR Webber; Sally St. Amand
>>>>>*Subject:* RE: InfoWorld SOA Forum
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry I can't participate. I will be in Redmond Washington for the 
>>>>>WS-RX F2F.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hamid.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: John Hardin [mailto:john@maphin.net]
>>>>>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:22 AM
>>>>>To: Sally St. Amand
>>>>>Cc: Brown, George W; Goran Zugic; vasco.drecun@cpd-associates.com; 
>>>>>David RR Webber; Hamid Ben Malek
>>>>>Subject: Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum
>>>>>Importance: High
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>OK, it looks like we will have George presenting the primary
>>>>>
>>>>>presentation and Sally, Vasco and George and possibly David Webber
> 
> on
> 
>>>>>the panel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Let me know today if this works for all - I will complete the
>>>>>
>>>>>registration of the abstracts once I recieve OK from all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>john
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sally St. Amand wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>George
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Your presenting provides a strong voice for ebSOA-FERA. I am 
>>>>>>planning on
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>attending but feel as though I am still validating concepts and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>approaches with the work you all have done.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>While you were not part of the conversation on Thurs, for me more 
>>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>those conversations will insure agreement and an ability to 
>>>>>>advance the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>work as we build off each others ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>The conversation was on orchestration.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I found the discussion valuable I would hope we can schedule like
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>discussion on future concalls and follow them up with specifics in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>emails (or a wiki, if I can dare to dream).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sally
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>*/"Brown, George W" <george.w.brown@intel.com>/* wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Goran,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   I did respond that I could go if it makes sense for me to 
>>>>>>represent
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   the ebsoa TC. I would certainly abdicate to Vasco or join him 
>>>>>>if
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   agreed. Let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   George
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> -
> 
>>>>>---
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   *From:* Goran Zugic [mailto:goran.zugic@semantion.com]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2005 5:53 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   *To:* Sally St. Amand; Brown, George W;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   vasco.drecun@cpd-associates.com; john@maphin.net; David RR 
>>>>>>Webber;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   hmalek@us.fujitsu.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   *Subject:* InfoWorld SOA Forum
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   I keep this between us editors for now until we see if we'll be
> 
> 
>>>>>>able
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   to submit the abstracts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   John has not sent the abstracts for the SOA Executive Forum 
>>>>>>yet. He
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   has not got any response from the list when asking who was able
> 
> 
>>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   attend. I will not be able to go. John cannot make it either. 
>>>>>>My
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   understanding is that Sally can go. I think that if George 
>>>>>>and/or
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Vasco and/or David can also go we should submit the abstracts. 
>>>>>>For
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   now we have two abstracts: one from George and another one from
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   John. We can still make it depending on who else can also go. 
>>>>>>The
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   deadline is this Monday Sept 19th. InfoWorld is a big 
>>>>>>publication
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   and I believe that we could get a nice "initial publicity" for 
>>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   ebSOA TC SOA work over there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   George's Abstract
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   ===================
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   "This presentation will introduce methods and a set of 
>>>>>>principles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   and guidelines for consistently and accurately deploying value 
>>>>>>chain
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   processes within a SOA. The approach is based on a two-tiered
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   framework, Integrated Process and Technology Framework, in 
>>>>>>which
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   business semantics are first defined through applicaton of a 
>>>>>>value
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   chain reference model, VCOR (Value Chain Operations Reference
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   model), and then a conceptual architecture, FERA (Federated
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Enterprise Reference Architecture), facilitates mapping 
>>>>>>business
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   collaboration patterns to the appropriate capabilities within a
> 
> 
>>>>>>SOA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   infrastructure. The transformation of the models of 
>>>>>>collaborative
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   process patterns to the SOA runtime environment is accomplished
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   through a SOA Informaton Model that is part of a proposed SOA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   standard. The FERA-based SOA specifications will be introduced 
>>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   describe how they provide full enterprise-level SOA support 
>>>>>>from
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   both a functional as well as implementational point of view. 
>>>>>>The
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   presentation utilizes a supply chain use case, Logistics 
>>>>>>Network
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Services, to illustrate how the fully defined SOA collaboration
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   semantics resolve the problem of semantic integration."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   John's Abstract for the panel dicussion
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   ===========================
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   "This panel discussion will feature leading pioneers in SOA 
>>>>>>based
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   architectures, including OASIS SOA, ebXML and Web Services 
>>>>>>specs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   leaders. Topics will cover shortfalls of the existing framework
> 
> 
>>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   has driven adoption of SOA up to this point, and the planned 
>>>>>>work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   that will provide a complete architectural guideline for 
>>>>>>stable,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   enterprise ready SOA's. The panel is currently working toward
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   completion of the upcoming OASIS Technical Architecture 2.0, 
>>>>>>with
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   FERA-based SOA Information Models providing the complete 
>>>>>>framework
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   for the next generation of distributed application networking."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   SOA Executive Forum InfoWorld link
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   http://www.infoworld.com/event/speaker_form.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Goran
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>
>>>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> ~
> 
>>>>>~
>>>>>
>>>>>|  john c hardin
>>>>>
>>>>>|  Chief Technology Officer
>>>>>
>>>>>|  http://www.maphin.net
>>>>>
>>>>>|  606.598.7353 office
>>>>>
>>>>>|  606.813.4316 cell
>>>>>
>>>>>|  mailto:john@maphin.net
>>>>>
>>>>>|
>>>>>
>>>>>|  Chair - OASIS ebSOA Technical Committee
>>>>>
>>>>>|  http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa
>>>>>
>>>>>|
>>>>>
>>>>>|
>>>>>
>>>>>|  "The new electronic interdependence recreates the world in the
>>>>>
>>>>>|   image of a global village."
>>>>>
>>>>>|
>>>>>
>>>>>|    Marshall McLuhan, "Gutenberg Galaxy", 1962
>>>>>
>>>>>|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> ~
> 
>>>>>|~
>>>
>>>--
>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>|  john c hardin
>>>|  Chief Technology Officer
>>>|  http://www.maphin.net
>>>|  606.598.7353 office
>>>|  606.813.4316 cell
>>>|  mailto:john@maphin.net
>>>|
>>>|  Chair - OASIS ebSOA Technical Committee  
>>>| http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa
>>>|
>>>|
>>>|  "The new electronic interdependence recreates the world in the
>>>|   image of a global village."
>>>|
>>>|    Marshall McLuhan, "Gutenberg Galaxy", 1962 
>>>|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|  john c hardin
|  Chief Technology Officer
|  http://www.maphin.net
|  606.598.7353 office
|  606.813.4316 cell
|  mailto:john@maphin.net
|
|  Chair - OASIS ebSOA Technical Committee
|  http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa
|
|
|  "The new electronic interdependence recreates the world in the
|   image of a global village."
|
|    Marshall McLuhan, "Gutenberg Galaxy", 1962
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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