Groups - Weekly ebBP Teleconference Call modified

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Weekly ebBP Teleconference Call has been modified by Monica Martin (monica.martin@sun.com).

Date:  Monday, 02 February 2004
Time:  12:00pm - 01:00pm Pacific Time

Event Description:
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12 noon PST
1 p.m. MST
3 p.m. EST
8 p.m. BST
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4 a.m. Taipei, Perth Tuesday
5 a.m. Tokyo, Tuesday
7 a.m. Sydney, Tuesday

Agenda:
1. Review and approval of meeting minutes.
2. Finalize any questions/logistics on F2F after Kavi vote close.
(Closure 30 Jan 2004). 
3. Versioning, Work Item 7 Nagahashi
4. Late binding and timeToPerform, Work Item 55, Abrell.

Members are encouraged to provide use cases to Kenji and Lars. Thank you!

Other business as time allows.

Minutes:
Meeting for Review and Approval:

ebBP TC Call 26 Jan 2004
Present:
Abrell
Barch
Jamie Clark
Dubray
Fischer
Kartha
Krishnan
Kulvantunyou
Moberg
Nagahashi
St. Amand
Tell
Webber
Yunker
Martin

Excused:
Roberts
Swenson

Updated Agenda:
1. Acceptance of meeting minutes 19 Jan 2004.

Barch motion; St. Amand second.
No objections.

2. Work Item 55, Late Binding TTP, Abrell.

Will defer to next week.
Martin: Reference Martin Roberts posting of today. Will resend to the group.

Roberts post on Work Item 43 (name/nameID), 55 (late binding/TTP) and overall BPSS mission:
http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/ebxml-bp/200401/msg00131.html

3. Solidify and agree on F2F agenda. Provide any other logistics or scheduling information to TC.

Martin: Per TC team request, put out agenda again for comment and information.

Reference: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/ebxml-bp/200401/msg00118.html
==============================================================================================
   1. Agree on categorization areas of work items, dependencies and
      prioritization. [1]
   2. Finalize existing in-work items.
   3. Discuss liaisons.

Assumptions:

    * Concentrate on complex items that cannot be resolved via phone.
    * Provide 2 sessions daily where people can phone in for updates.

[1] Take categories at the beginning of the meeting and determine 
dependencies and conflicts occurring. Use meeting for walk-through of 
categories, dependencies, and prioritization. For example, if we could 
tackle control flow, multi-party collaboration and business entities - 
great!
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Webber: A Kavi vote would also be helpful.
Martin: Will post a Kavi vote and close before Monday, 2 February regular conference call.

ACTION:
MARTIN: OPEN KAVI VOTE. DONE-26 JAN 2004
Kavi vote opens 9 p.m. 26 Jan and closes 30 Jan at 9 p.m. PST.
Detailed agenda will be distributed via list for comment.

F2F Conference calls
Martin: Any suggestions?
Yunker: End of the day session would be good to get phone members to provide feedback.
One hour should be sufficient.
Martin: Should I have separate calls for Asia and Europe?
Yunker: Recap events not agenda.
Martin: Good idea. Any other questions?
None provided.

ACTION:
MARTIN: INCLUDE PHONE SESSIONS IN AGENDA. DONE-26 JAN 2004

4. Summary / brochure for ebBP, Martin.

Martin: Anyone interested in helping with a brochure? Reg/Rep has provided a brochure and summary. Need this
functional summary for ebBP as well, as do all JC members.
Webber: Will assist. On the BCM team, Neil Wasserman did a great job on their brochure. He may be open to reviewing our brochure. Webber will ask him to review.
St. Amand: Will assist as well.

5. Make decision on OASIS general meeting for April, Martin.

a. Presentation for any attending members

Barch: Interested in assisting although he may not be able to attend. Suggested subject: BPSS Implementation
Webber: Will be attending and will assist.
Martin: Abstract due 9 February. For any suggestions or questions, see OASIS Technical Advisory Board (TAB).

ACTION:
MARTIN: POST STARTING LIST TO TEAM FOR SUGGESTIONS ON PRESENTATION TOPIC. DONE-POSTED 26 JAN 2004.

b. Meeting with other ebXML or OASIS TCs at OASIS Symposium?

Barch: WS-BPEL
Moberg: WS-CAF
Martin: Any others? Possible for CPPA negotiation.
Webber: Suggest have a Kavi vote on OASIS symposium participation.

ACTION:
MARTIN: SET UP KAVI VOTE ON OASIS SYMPOSIUM. DONE-26 JAN 2004

6. Other business or any new business from members.

Work Item 43:
Yunker: Nagahashi posting met his use cases.
See email reference: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/ebxml-bp/200401/msg00129.html
Webber: Will repost his UID suggestion, and respond to Martin Roberts' questions.
Original post 23 Jan 2004: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/ebxml-bp/200401/msg00126.html

2 February 2004 Conference call:
Martin: Should we have a call before F2F?
No objection.

F2F Logistics
Martin: 8:30-9:30 a.m. PST, 4 February 2004
Access to Sun facilities.
St. Amand: Will arrive at 12 noon. 
Martin: Will have Sun personnel available to assist late entrants.

Martin contact information: 877.330.9868 rolls to cell phone.

Work Item 7
Versioning
Martin: Discuss 2 February 2004. No objections.
Nagahashi: Need concrete use cases to prepare proposal.
Yunker: When we started, we had a strong expectation that BPSS would be used to tie together the service
specifications. This impacts versioning and access through a registry, as well as semantic identification that is more address oriented.
Would like the group to decide if there is a strong-bias to use standards-approach or individual groups will specify their preference: General framework or specific design.
Webber: Our critical business edge is that we provide support for industry associations. BPEL is not going there; that doesn't mean that we should not.
Yunker: Agreed. Need to pay attention to semantics.
Webber: What about IV&I? That project is trying to develop BPSS standardized flows.
JBClark: If you read old ebXML documents, you see orientation Yunker specifies. Need to adjust make adjustments on expectations if that is not true. However, the alternative is to modularize to deliver that capability for a large community such as RosettaNet and plug in their own capabilities.
Webber: I see one is a by-product of the other. The late binding and the overall focus on producing plug-n-play BPSS definitions for industry scenarios allow you to provide the other capabilities you need.
JBClark: My comment is focused on the requirements level.
Yunker: To Webber's comment, this focus could create a challenge for a large enterprise. A good understanding across a large industry is required. However, if there is creative application in a large industry, the semantics make it more difficult using XML (than EDI).
Webber: People could take BPSS toolset and apply to domains that may have not been considered.
Martin: Will post IV&I working documents for team reference.

ACTION: 
MARTIN: POST IV&I DOCUMENT. DONE-26 JAN 2004

****F2F RSVPs as of 26 Jan 2004
Person:
St. Amand
Pradhan
Ten-Hove (observer)
Nagahashi
Sharma (guest)
Swenson
M. Roberts-possible
Krishnan
Moberg
Mukkamala
Martin
Webber-possible

Phone:
Abrell
Barch
Dubray
Yunker
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