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Subject: RE: nonrepudiation (signing messages)



Dale> I think both those issues
> point to recommending that the same
> Reference element is to be used both within
> the originating parties Signature and within the Receiving
> parties receipt.

Chris>I think (though to be honest, I haven't read this recently) that
this is what is recommended. It may not have been clearly 
expressed, but this was certainly the intent (that the
Reference in the Ack is extracted from the Signature of
the original message being ack'ed).


Dale New>> If that is what the specification says, then
1. the reconciliation process should be supported (except for 
mismatch in hash value when the message id is still needed)
2. the original sender will have no room to complain
about the receipt without calling into question his
own non repudiation of origin
and, finally, 
3. (back to what I took Marty's question to be) there would
not be much motivation for adding an element under nonrepudiation
of origin or receipt to express what kind of Reference
was to be used for receipts. 
Because of 3, it looks like, at least for the ebXML binding,
there is not much point in adding something to the CPP/CPA
that would represent the agreement--because by following 
the spec, there are not really alternative ways to return
the Reference and hash. Is that correct?




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