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Subject: RE: [ebxml-iic] Simple trading partner configuration for ebMS
Since most of the complexity of the CPA has been forced on the CPA by the functionality the MSH specified (excepting the ties to the BPSS), I suspect that the situation is that having built a MSH, the effort to support CPA import and export has appeared to be one of those things to put in the backlog... Maybe this problem will be helped for Java users once JSR 157 gets further along and there are reference implementations providing an API for CPA operations. Some open source, free code (from Sybase) is out there now that might help. I do think that CPA TC rarely traded off completeness of coverage of MSH configuration for simplicity of implementation. So, probably a sample CPA template for tests could be created where each side could just edit the URL and the PartyId,-Name,-Ref, and CpaID. That would be enough for testing purposes, unless you actually wanted to test exchange of CPPs, formation of CPAs, etc. For the Vienna POC, that is how we worked it. Also the CPA TC is still working on protocols for negotiation and so that functionality is not ready for interop yet. That is another reason to probably stick to the exchange of edited CPA templates for initial interops. -----Original Message----- From: Rik Drummond [mailto:rvd2@drummondgroup.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 5:21 PM To: Dale Moberg; 'Matthew MacKenzie'; ebxml-iic@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: 'Cppalist (E-mail)' Subject: RE: [ebxml-iic] Simple trading partner configuration for ebMS We are finding that the cpp is tooo complex to implement just for the msh. This seems like it would be a start, especially if it is a near or proper subset of the whole cpp. rik -----Original Message----- From: Dale Moberg [mailto:dmoberg@cyclonecommerce.com] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 8:39 PM To: Matthew MacKenzie; ebxml-iic@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: Cppalist (E-mail) Subject: RE: [ebxml-iic] Simple trading partner configuration for ebMS Hi Matt, I skimmed the schema you provided. I guess it is one of the "70/30" optimization gambits. Anders from OpenEbXML has proposed a similar lightweight schema within the JSR 157 group. As such, I think it might be worthwhile sending to the ebxml CPPA TC for consideration. It is especially interesting in that it might promote adoption of profile/protocol-binding technologies, because of its minimalisticYetEssential view of configuring the b2b side of the MSH. So the advantage I see is that it is geared for the ebXML MSH (it may ignore some of the PKI support the security risk document recommended--I would think about adding that in, at least optionally). A political problem is that it more or less dispenses with the BPSS hooks (and so becomes choreography/flow/orchestration/process independent). That may be feasible via the modularity doctrine, however. Would you be willing to cross post the example and schema to ebXML-CPPA? Maybe a few words in support of a CPA-lite could accompany the post? Thanks, Dale Moberg -----Original Message----- From: Matthew MacKenzie [mailto:matt@xmlglobal.com] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 4:07 PM To: ebxml-iic@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [ebxml-iic] Simple trading partner configuration for ebMS Team, As we discussed during the F2F today, I've put together a simple CPA replacement that has the bare minimum configuration information for 2 parties. These could be what we use for specifying MSH configuration for conformance and interoperability. It also could form a CPA replacement, which is designed over time to meet vendor needs as per discussions we had today (Myself, Hatem@IPNet, Jeff@Cyclone). If you're interested in this development for use beyond testing, please help me out by supplying feedback -- is there anything missing that a good MSH needs out of a TPA? Regards, Matt ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>
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