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<Thread id=”T1”>>
<TestStep>
<PutMessage M1>
</TestStep>
<If>
<TestStep>
<GetMessage M2>
<TestAssertion/>
</GetMessage>
</TestStep>
<Then>
<Thread  id=”Thread2”>
</Then>
<Else>
<Thread id=”Thread3”>
</Else>
</If>

comments?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jacques Durand [mailto:JDurand@us.fujitsu.com]
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:13 PM
To: 'michael.kass@nist.gov'; Jacques Durand; ebXML IIC - main list (E-mail)
(E-mail)
Subject: RE: Final DRAFT for today's discussion and voting

Mike:

as discussed today, that looks OK assuming we have a decent way to
branch-off a thread or not, based on a TestAssertion outcome.

Not sure I understand the concern on object hierarchy:
(isn't that similar to having in a prog language a simple instruction
invoking a procedure?)
Though I understand parameter scoping would get more difficult.

Jacques

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Kass [mailto:michael.kass@nist.gov]
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 7:47 AM
To: Jacques Durand; ebXML IIC - main list (E-mail) (E-mail)
Subject: Final DRAFT for today's discussion and voting
Jacques and all,

   Here is the URL for the final draft of the Test Framework specification.


http://xsun.sdct.itl.nist.gov/~mkass/ebxml_iic/IIC_ebXMLTestFramework%20V1.1
_04_12_04_final_draft.zip


  All issues have been addressd that were identified in the last conf call.
I am ready to vote for the document, however I wish to discuss one  item
currently in the spec that I believe should be removed ( branching from
within a Test Step ).  I believe that doing so breaks the object hierarchy
( and the parameter scooping ) of the Test Framework, and is unnecessary.  I
believe that using the natural object hierarchy of :

TestSuite
TestCase
Thread
TestStep

 makes sense.

 I believe that a hierarchy of:

TestSuite
TestCase
Thread
TestStep
Thread

  does not.  Especially when one thinks of Threads in a BPSS sense ( as a
container for a particular set of related actions (i.e. a particular part of
a business process ), and thinks of TestSteps as the "atomic" level
operation that is simply a PutMessage or GetMessage.  The logical branching
from a Test Step destroys this hierarchical relationship, and the
readability of a script ( and its natural similarity to a business process
definition )

Attached is the document for review.
Sorry I couldn't get it out sooner.. worked on it all weekend.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Jacques Durand [mailto:JDurand@us.fujitsu.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:16 PM
To: ebXML IIC - main list (E-mail) (E-mail)
Subject: [ebxml-iic] Minutes last meeting, next call


All:
Next call:
Time: Monday Apr 12, 2pm PT
Host: Fujitsu
Toll only :  1-512-225-3050
Participant code: 89772
We'll get another iteration of the spec by theend of thsi week and decide
whether to submit it to vote
this Monday 12 (vote will be by email, over 1 week)
The new iteration should address the "notes" in the attached minutes.
Mike: can you especially check "note #2" and send a note to the list on
current status for this?
we have to follow-up on this to make
sure that we have a clear scheme for terminating a test case (exit
statement?)
Regards,
Jacques
<<IIC_April_05_04_minutes.txt>>


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face=3DArial><span =
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color=3D"#993366"
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>comments?<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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color=3D"#993366"
face=3DArial><span =
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color=3Dblack
face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Jacques Durand
[mailto:JDurand@us.fujitsu.com]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 12, =
2004 8:13
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
'michael.kass@nist.gov';
Jacques Durand; ebXML IIC - main list (E-mail) (E-mail)<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Final DRAFT =
for
today's discussion and voting</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><![if =
!supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Mike:</span></fon=
t><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>as discussed =
today, that
looks OK assuming we have a decent way to </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>branch-off a =
thread or
not, based on a TestAssertion outcome.</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Not sure I =
understand the
concern on&nbsp;object hierarchy:</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>(isn't that =
similar to
having in a prog language a simple instruction invoking a =
procedure?)</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Though I =
understand
parameter scoping would get more difficult.</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Jacques</span></f=
ont><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Michael Kass
[mailto:michael.kass@nist.gov]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 12, =
2004 7:47
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Jacques Durand; ebXML =
IIC -
main list (E-mail) (E-mail)<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Final DRAFT for =
today's
discussion and voting</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jacques and =
all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>Here is the URL for the final draft of the Test Framework =
specification.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href=3D"http://xsun.sdct.itl.nist.gov/~mkass/ebxml_iic/IIC_ebXMLTestFrame=
work%20V1.1_04_12_04_final_draft.zip">http://xsun.sdct.itl.nist.gov/~mkas=
s/ebxml_iic/IIC_ebXMLTestFramework%20V1.1_04_12_04_final_draft.zip</a><o:=
p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; =
</span>All
issues have been addressd that were identified in the last conf =
call.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am ready to vote for the document, however I =
wish
to discuss one<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>item =
currently in
the spec that I believe should be removed ( branching from within a Test =
Step
).<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>I believe that doing =
so breaks
the object hierarchy ( and the parameter scooping ) of the Test =
Framework, and
is unnecessary.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>I believe =
that
using the natural object hierarchy of =
:<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>TestSuite<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>TestCase<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thread</span></font></span><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'><br>
<span class=3DEmailStyle19><font =
color=3Dnavy>TestStep<o:p></o:p></font></span></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;</span>makes
sense.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;</span>I
believe that a hierarchy of:<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>TestSuite<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>TestCase<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thread</span></font></span><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'><br>
<span class=3DEmailStyle19><font =
color=3Dnavy>TestStep<o:p></o:p></font></span></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thread<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; =
</span>does
not.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Especially when one =
thinks of
Threads in a BPSS sense ( as a container for a particular set of related
actions (i.e. a particular part of a business process ), and thinks of
TestSteps as the &quot;atomic&quot; level operation that is simply a =
PutMessage
or GetMessage.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The =
logical
branching from a Test Step destroys this hierarchical relationship, and =
the
readability of a script ( and its natural similarity to a business =
process
definition )<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Attached is the document for =
review.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Sorry I couldn't get it out sooner.. worked on =
it all
weekend.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle19><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Jacques Durand
[mailto:JDurand@us.fujitsu.com]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 06, =
2004 8:16
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ebXML IIC - main list =
(E-mail)
(E-mail)<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [ebxml-iic] =
Minutes last
meeting, next call</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>All:</span></fon=
t><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Next =
call:</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Time: Monday =
Apr 12, 2pm
PT</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Host: =
Fujitsu</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Toll =
only
:&nbsp; 1-512-225-3050</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'>
<br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black'>Participant
code: 89772</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>We'll get =
another
iteration of the spec by theend of thsi week and decide whether to =
submit it to
vote</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>this Monday 12 (vote will be by email, =
over 1
week)</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>The new iteration should address the
&quot;notes&quot; in the attached minutes.</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Mike: can you =
especially
check &quot;note #2&quot; and send a note to the list on current status =
for
this? </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>we have to follow-up on this to =
make</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>sure that we have a clear scheme for =
terminating
a test case (exit statement?)</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Regards,</span><=
/font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Jacques</span></=
font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>&lt;&lt;IIC_April_05_04_minutes.txt&gt;&gt=
; </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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