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Subject: Re: [ebxml-cppa] Re: [ebxml-msg]



Sounds good to me.

Regards,
Marty

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"Arvola Chan" <arvola@tibco.com> on 11/07/2001 11:12:57 AM

To:    Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM@IBMUS, "David Fischer"
       <david@drummondgroup.com>
cc:    "ebXML Msg" <ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org>,
       <ebxml-cppa@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject:    Re: [ebxml-cppa] Re: [ebxml-msg]



Marty and David:

I was trying to clarify lines 1738 and 1739 in section 7.4.5 on
TimeToLive.

I agree that it will be useful to clarify at the end of section
7.4.4 RetryInterval that:

"RetryInterval applies to the time between sending of the
original message and the first retry as well as the time
between retries."

Regards,
-Arvola

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin W Sachs <mwsachs@us.ibm.com>
To: Arvola Chan <arvola@tibco.com>
Cc: David Fischer <david@drummondgroup.com>; ebXML Msg
<ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org>; ebxml-cppa@lists.oasis-open.org
<ebxml-cppa@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 8:32 PM
Subject: [ebxml-cppa] Re: [ebxml-msg]


>
>Arvola,
>
>Your suggestion below should be accompanied by words in the definition of
>RetryInterval that state that RetryInterval applies to the time between
>sending of the original message and the first retry as well as the time
>between retries.  This is missing from both the MSG spec and the CPPA
spec.
>
>Regards,
>Marty
>
>
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>
>Martin W. Sachs
>IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
>P. O. B. 704
>Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
>914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
>Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
>Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
>
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>
>
>
>Arvola Chan <arvola@tibco.com> on 11/06/2001 08:32:49 PM
>
>To:    David Fischer <david@drummondgroup.com>
>cc:    ebXML Msg <ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org>
>Subject:    Re: [ebxml-msg]
>
>
>
>David:
>
>How about rephrasing the sentence on lines 1738-1739 as:
>
>"For a reliably delivered message, TimeToLive MUST be greater than
>(Timestamp + Retries * RetryInterval)."
>
>I also agree with Dan that ExpirationTime would be a better name than
>TimeToLive. However, that will trigger other requisite descriptive
>changes because we currently have an errorCode named
>TimeToLiveExpired.
>
>Regards,
>-Arvola
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Fischer <david@drummondgroup.com>
>To: Arvola Chan <arvola@tibco.com>
>Cc: ebXML Msg <ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org>
>Date: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 7:26 AM
>Subject: [ebxml-msg]
>
>
>Spec section 7.4.5:
>TimeToLive MUST be greater than the product of Retries and RetryInterval
>since
>the message was originally sent.
>
>Your comments:
>
>  You cannot directly compare a dateTime quantity against a duration
>quantity.
>
>This does not directly compare.  TimeToLive is compared to (Retries *
>RetryInterval) SINCE the message was originally sent.
>
>I believe this is correct.  How would you prefer to say this?
>
>Regards,
>
>David Fischer
>Drummond Group.
>
>
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