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Subject: [ebxml-msg] toPartyMSH [was Re: Minutes 12/03/01 - Voting Meeting]
David, I wasn't around the TC when this was added to the specification but it appears relatively clear. The toPartyMSH encompasses the default actor and also covers any other MSH legally able to respond on behalf of the To Party. Good examples come from previous discussions of multi-hop ebXML-msh use cases such as store-and-forward MSH instances in an enterprise DMZ. From a legal and technical perspective, it's perfectly fine for that MSH to acknowledge a received message. In my "first half" comments, I mentioned this was not completely apparent from the text of our specification and recommended a few more words describing this actor. I also recommended requiring this actor value be used only in the AckRequested and Acknowledgment elements. According to the rules we've defined, only the final destination MSH may eliminate duplicates, re-order messages, et cetera. Separately, I mentioned in various discussions about acknowledgments it might be useful to allow the default actor to be named in these two elements. On second thought, I'm not so sure because the default actor is already required to act in the fashion described for the toPartyMSH. Other than the words I mentioned above and re-adding use="required" to the attribute references in the schema, nothing needs to change. By the way, the actor you named isn't defined. I'm assuming you meant the default SOAP actor. thanx, doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Fischer" <david@drummondgroup.com> To: "David Fischer" <david@drummondgroup.com>; "Christopher Ferris" <chris.ferris@sun.com> Cc: "Martin W Sachs" <mwsachs@us.ibm.com>; "Arvola Chan" <arvola@tibco.com>; "ebXML Msg" <ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org> Sent: Tuesday, 04 December 2001 13:01 Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] Minutes 12/03/01 - Voting Meeting Sorry, I did not want to start a big discussion on the list over this -- but I managed to send to the list anyway. David. -----Original Message----- From: David Fischer [mailto:david@drummondgroup.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:47 PM To: Christopher Ferris Cc: Martin W Sachs; Arvola Chan; ebXML Msg Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] Minutes 12/03/01 - Voting Meeting I'd rather not go to the list but can you explain why we need urn:oasis:names:tc:ebxml-msg:service:toPartyMSH? Isn't this the same as http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/actor/end? - David. <SNIP />
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