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Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] Message Order Inconsistency section 10 pp's 1,2
Marty, I respectfully disagree. We have included two normative bindings to specific communication protocols and left the door purposefully open to any and all other communication protocols. It is possible to implement ebXML-MSH using a JMS provider today. I also disagree we decided ebXML Reliable Messaging was required for ebXML Message Order. In fact, Shimamura-san and I went through some rewording of his clarifications to avoid that requirement. The ebXML specification has explicitly recognised the possibility of other communication protocols in the past, including those that provide reliability. We were working to ensure the message ordering text wasn't a glaring exception. David, Recognising the possibility of communication protocols that provide both reliability and message ordering is very different than making a required association between the two features. Just as ebXML Reliable Messaging is intended to supplement features available in the communication protocol, so should ebXML Message Order be used. For example, one of the many SOAP extensions might provide one feature but not the other. All, My recommendation is to change paragraph 1 in section 10 to also allow non-ebXML Reliable Messaging combined with ebXML Message Order. thanx, doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin W Sachs" <mwsachs@us.ibm.com> To: "David Fischer" <david@drummondgroup.com> Cc: "Miller, Robert (GXS)" <Robert.Miller@gxs.ge.com>; "ebxml-msg" <ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org> Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2001 06:03 Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] Message Order Inconsistency section 10 pp's 1,2 I thought that we had already agreed on: "if eb:MessageOrder is used, then eb Reliable Messaging should be used as well." Since we haven't identified and don't have bindings for any other RM protocols, the issue is moot. Regards, Marty **************************************************************************** ********* Martin W. Sachs IBM T. J. Watson Research Center P. O. B. 704 Yorktown Hts, NY 10598 914-784-7287; IBM tie line 863-7287 Notes address: Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM Internet address: mwsachs @ us.ibm.com **************************************************************************** ********* David Fischer <david@drummondgroup.com> on 12/10/2001 10:36:22 PM To: "Miller, Robert (GXS)" <Robert.Miller@gxs.ge.com>, ebxml-msg <ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org> cc: Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] Message Order Inconsistency section 10 pp's 1,2 Yes, I think you are right. We talked about other RM mechanisms but then someone pointed out, the other RM mechanism will probably deliver in order as well so there is no need for eb:MessageOrder. IMO, if eb:MessageOrder is used, then eb Reliable Messaging should be used as well. Thoughts, Comments, Objections? Regards, David Fischer Drummond Group ebXML-MS Editor. -----Original Message----- From: Miller, Robert (GXS) [mailto:Robert.Miller@gxs.ge.com] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:37 PM To: ebxml-msg Subject: [ebxml-msg] Message Order Inconsistency section 10 pp's 1,2 Section 10 paragraph 2 MessageOrder module SHOULD only be used in conjunction with a reliable messaging mechanism ..." conflicts with paragraph 1 "... Reliable Messaging MUST be used when a MessageOrder element is present." ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>
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