[ebxml-msg] ebXML-MS v2.0 Vote 1

[David Fischer <david@drummondgroup.com>]

On the question of Authors -- I did not change the list of contributors on the
second page.  I left the acknowledgment to v1.0 contributors on the last page.
I removed the Authors list on the next to last page.  At Colleen's request, I
removed her name as Editor.

I think this is ready to vote on.  Was Ian going to send out ballots?

Regards,

David Fischer
Drummond Group
ebXML-MS Editor

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Ferris [mailto:chris.ferris@sun.com]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:52 AM
To: Ralph Berwanger
Cc: ebXML Msg
Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] RE: A Request on the Author's list in ebMS 1.1


+1 to Ralphs comments and suggestions.

Cheers,

Chris

Ralph Berwanger wrote:

> David,
> 	I agree that the list will be very long, especially if you
> attempt to adopt a method that uses Marty's comments regarding all who
> participated via eMail or conference call.  I do not have a good answer.
> I will not lose any sleep if my name does not appear in the document. I
> will tell you that I am sure that if a list of contributors is included
> and someone is omitted from the list, there will be some who are
> disappointed.
> 	I think that you will remember that I wanted to place the list
> of contributors into an appendix of the V 1.0 document or at the very
> end.  I lost that debate and we were challenged to develop an inclusive
> list.  The problem is now magnified.  	I was going to suggest that we
> point to the OASIS web site that lists the membership of the TC as the
> contributor source.  I went to the OASIS web site and determined that
> the TC membership is presented there.  The problem is that we may have
> contributors to the document who currently are not members of the TC or
> a current member may withdraw from the group but still have contributed
> to the document.  So let me make the following proposal, if we call the
> document version 2.0, I suggest that the contributor list consist of
> only those who contributed to the creation of the V 2.0 document.  We
> started with the V1.0 document and the V 1.0 document contains its own
> list of contributors. I will point out that we used the SOAP 1.1 spec in
> the development of the TRP 1.0 spec but did not list those who had
> contributed to the SOAP Spec--that of course would be ludicrous.  I know
> that Dick Brooks and others made key contributions to the V 1.0
> document.  I do not discount the importance of their work.  However,
> this is V 2.0 and we are citing the fact that the specification is
> building on the V 1.0 work so direct references to the V1.0 document do
> not seem necessary.
> 	DISCLAIMER:  This message is not intended to start a firestorm.
> I am only trying to simplify David's task and take a reasonable approach
> to publishing the specification.
>
> Ralph Berwanger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Fischer [mailto:david@drummondgroup.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:59 PM
> To: Colleen Evans; dick@tech-comm.com; Prasad Yendluri;
> ian.c.jones@bt.com; Ralph Berwanger
> Cc: ebXML Msg
> Subject: RE: A Request on the Author's list in ebMS 1.1
>
>
> OK, anyone who feels they should be included in the Author's section,
> please
> send me your name and contact info.  This is likely to be a long list.
> Please
> also include whether you were a v1.0 or v2.0 (new version number)
> author, or
> both.
>
> Regards,
>
> David.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colleen Evans [mailto:cevans@sonicsoftware.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:44 PM
> To: dick@tech-comm.com; David Fischer; Prasad Yendluri;
> ian.c.jones@bt.com; Ralph Berwanger
> Subject: Re: A Request on the Author's list in ebMS 1.1
>
>
> I agree with Dick.  I think anyone who has contributed substantial
> submissions
> to what is retained or added in 1.1 should be acknowledged in the
> Authors
> section, including David F. and Ralph (and what about Maryann Hondo for
> the
> Security section of 1.0?).  Maybe we should call it  'Contributing
> Authors' to
> accurately reflect that these individuals have contributed sections or
> large
> portions of the spec, while it was a group effort as a whole.
>
> Would it help if just the contributing author's name, company, and
> possibly an
> email address were listed, rather than the entire address and contact
> information?
>
> Also, David, I would be happy to have my name removed as the team
> editor, as I
> only edited the first couple of drafts for the 1.1 spec.  You have done
> all the
> work.
>
> Best regards - and Happy New Year everyone,
> Colleen
>
> Dick Brooks wrote:
>
>
>>It is professional courtesy to properly identity contributing
>>parties/authors when contributions by those authors are retained in a
>>published work item. I concur with Prasad's comments.
>>
>>Dick Brooks
>>Systrends, Inc
>>7855 South River Parkway, Suite 111
>>Tempe, Arizona 85284
>>Web: www.systrends.com <http://www.systrends.com>
>>Phone:480.756.6777,Mobile:205-790-1542,eFax:240-352-0714
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: David Fischer [mailto:david@drummondgroup.com]
>>Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:57 PM
>>To: Prasad Yendluri; ian.c.jones@bt.com; Colleen Evans
>>Cc: Dick Brooks; Ralph Berwanger
>>Subject: RE: A Request on the Author's list in ebMS 1.1
>>
>>Yes, I have written quite a bit of this spec too.  However, we cannot
>>
> put
>
>>everyone on the Author's list.  Those who made contributions to the
>>
> v1.0
>
>>spec
>>are already listed in the Acknowledgments.  If adding Arvola's name is
>>
> going
>
>>to
>>start a stampede, then we should take his name off.  This spec was
>>
> such a
>
>>group
>>effort, and no one actually did any large writing (except maybe Ralph
>>
> for
>
>>section 1.2) that I wonder if maybe we should not have an Author's
>>
> section.
>
>>Regards,
>>
>>David.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Prasad Yendluri [mailto:pyendluri@webmethods.com]
>>Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:49 PM
>>To: ian.c.jones@bt.com; david@drummondgroup.com; Colleen Evans
>>Cc: Dick Brooks; Ralph Berwanger
>>Subject: A Request on the Authors's list in ebMS 1.1
>>
>>Folks,
>>
>>I just noticed the list of author's has changed. I think that is
>>
> great.
>
>>Arvola's contributions to 1.1 version are invaluable. However, I think
>>it is only fair that all the authors are acknowledged. Dick Brooks and
>>myself have written the transport bindings section of the 1.0
>>specification. I was also the owner of the SyncReply module. All these
>>are mostly intact in the 1.1 version. I am listing below some of the
>>pertinent email messages and the corresponding attachments here with
>>
> for
>
>>your reference.
>>
>>Thanks, Prasad
>>
>>-------- Original Message --------
>>Subject: HTTP Bindings latest draft
>>Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:23:19 -0800
>>From: Prasad Yendluri <pyendluri@webmethods.com>
>>To: pyendluri@webmethods.com
>>CC: christopher ferris <chris.ferris@east.sun.com>,Dick Brooks
>><dick@8760.com>, "ian.c.jones@bt.com" <ian.c.jones@bt.com>,David
>>
> Fischer
>
>><david@drummondgroup.com>,Rik Drummond <rvd2@worldnet.att.net>,"Dale
>>Moberg (E-mail)" <Dale_Moberg@stercomm.com>,"Ralph Berwanger (E-mail)"
>><rberwanger@bTrade.com>,Doug Bunting <Doug@ariba.com>,"Burdett, David"
>><david.burdett@commerceone.com>, marcb@webmethods.com
>>References: <3A92A939.F98A9F32@east.Sun.COM>
>>
>>Folks,
>>
>>Please find attached the latest version of HTTP bindings
>>
> specification.
>
>>the updates are based on the issues list from Ian and also what Dick
>>and I noted down or remember. The updates also try to address
>>SOAP HTTP 500 issue. A line that states client cert based
>>
> authentication
>
>>is permitted is added but, I suspect we need more than that. So, we
>>would welcome some suggestions for text there.
>>
>>Dick and I are going back and forth on the SMTP bindings but that one
>>should go out later today or tomorrow morning.
>>
>>Cheers and best regards.
>>
>>Prasad
>>
>>-------- Original Message --------
>>Subject: Latest DRAFT of SMTP bindings
>>Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:55:19 -0600
>>From: Dick Brooks <dick@8760.com>
>>Reply-To: dick@8760.com
>>To: Ebxml <ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org>
>>
>>Here is what Prasad and I came up with for SMTP bindings, let us know
>>what
>>you think.
>>
>>I don't have a pdf creator so I'm providing the MS word version. Maybe
>>one
>>of those kind individuals (maw?)
>>with a pdf converter will redistribute a pdf version of the doc.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Dick Brooks
>>Group 8760
>>110 12th Street North
>>Birmingham, AL 35203
>>dick@8760.com
>>205-250-8053
>>Fax: 205-250-8057
>>http://www.8760.com/
>>
>>InsideAgent - Empowering e-commerce solutions
>>
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