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Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] ebXML-MS v2.0 Vote 1
Is there a meeting scheduled for today? I have not received notice Brad -----Original Message----- From: David Fischer [mailto:david@drummondgroup.com] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:39 AM To: ebXML Msg; Ian. C. Jones (E-mail) Subject: [ebxml-msg] ebXML-MS v2.0 Vote 1 On the question of Authors -- I did not change the list of contributors on the second page. I left the acknowledgment to v1.0 contributors on the last page. I removed the Authors list on the next to last page. At Colleen's request, I removed her name as Editor. I think this is ready to vote on. Was Ian going to send out ballots? Regards, David Fischer Drummond Group ebXML-MS Editor -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Ferris [mailto:chris.ferris@sun.com] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:52 AM To: Ralph Berwanger Cc: ebXML Msg Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] RE: A Request on the Author's list in ebMS 1.1 +1 to Ralphs comments and suggestions. Cheers, Chris Ralph Berwanger wrote: > David, > I agree that the list will be very long, especially if you > attempt to adopt a method that uses Marty's comments regarding all who > participated via eMail or conference call. I do not have a good answer. > I will not lose any sleep if my name does not appear in the document. I > will tell you that I am sure that if a list of contributors is included > and someone is omitted from the list, there will be some who are > disappointed. > I think that you will remember that I wanted to place the list > of contributors into an appendix of the V 1.0 document or at the very > end. I lost that debate and we were challenged to develop an inclusive > list. The problem is now magnified. I was going to suggest that we > point to the OASIS web site that lists the membership of the TC as the > contributor source. I went to the OASIS web site and determined that > the TC membership is presented there. The problem is that we may have > contributors to the document who currently are not members of the TC or > a current member may withdraw from the group but still have contributed > to the document. So let me make the following proposal, if we call the > document version 2.0, I suggest that the contributor list consist of > only those who contributed to the creation of the V 2.0 document. We > started with the V1.0 document and the V 1.0 document contains its own > list of contributors. I will point out that we used the SOAP 1.1 spec in > the development of the TRP 1.0 spec but did not list those who had > contributed to the SOAP Spec--that of course would be ludicrous. I know > that Dick Brooks and others made key contributions to the V 1.0 > document. I do not discount the importance of their work. However, > this is V 2.0 and we are citing the fact that the specification is > building on the V 1.0 work so direct references to the V1.0 document do > not seem necessary. > DISCLAIMER: This message is not intended to start a firestorm. > I am only trying to simplify David's task and take a reasonable approach > to publishing the specification. > > Ralph Berwanger > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Fischer [mailto:david@drummondgroup.com] > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:59 PM > To: Colleen Evans; dick@tech-comm.com; Prasad Yendluri; > ian.c.jones@bt.com; Ralph Berwanger > Cc: ebXML Msg > Subject: RE: A Request on the Author's list in ebMS 1.1 > > > OK, anyone who feels they should be included in the Author's section, > please > send me your name and contact info. This is likely to be a long list. > Please > also include whether you were a v1.0 or v2.0 (new version number) > author, or > both. > > Regards, > > David. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Colleen Evans [mailto:cevans@sonicsoftware.com] > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:44 PM > To: dick@tech-comm.com; David Fischer; Prasad Yendluri; > ian.c.jones@bt.com; Ralph Berwanger > Subject: Re: A Request on the Author's list in ebMS 1.1 > > > I agree with Dick. I think anyone who has contributed substantial > submissions > to what is retained or added in 1.1 should be acknowledged in the > Authors > section, including David F. and Ralph (and what about Maryann Hondo for > the > Security section of 1.0?). Maybe we should call it 'Contributing > Authors' to > accurately reflect that these individuals have contributed sections or > large > portions of the spec, while it was a group effort as a whole. > > Would it help if just the contributing author's name, company, and > possibly an > email address were listed, rather than the entire address and contact > information? > > Also, David, I would be happy to have my name removed as the team > editor, as I > only edited the first couple of drafts for the 1.1 spec. You have done > all the > work. > > Best regards - and Happy New Year everyone, > Colleen > > Dick Brooks wrote: > > >>It is professional courtesy to properly identity contributing >>parties/authors when contributions by those authors are retained in a >>published work item. I concur with Prasad's comments. >> >>Dick Brooks >>Systrends, Inc >>7855 South River Parkway, Suite 111 >>Tempe, Arizona 85284 >>Web: www.systrends.com <http://www.systrends.com> >>Phone:480.756.6777,Mobile:205-790-1542,eFax:240-352-0714 >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: David Fischer [mailto:david@drummondgroup.com] >>Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:57 PM >>To: Prasad Yendluri; ian.c.jones@bt.com; Colleen Evans >>Cc: Dick Brooks; Ralph Berwanger >>Subject: RE: A Request on the Author's list in ebMS 1.1 >> >>Yes, I have written quite a bit of this spec too. However, we cannot >> > put > >>everyone on the Author's list. Those who made contributions to the >> > v1.0 > >>spec >>are already listed in the Acknowledgments. If adding Arvola's name is >> > going > >>to >>start a stampede, then we should take his name off. This spec was >> > such a > >>group >>effort, and no one actually did any large writing (except maybe Ralph >> > for > >>section 1.2) that I wonder if maybe we should not have an Author's >> > section. > >>Regards, >> >>David. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Prasad Yendluri [mailto:pyendluri@webmethods.com] >>Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:49 PM >>To: ian.c.jones@bt.com; david@drummondgroup.com; Colleen Evans >>Cc: Dick Brooks; Ralph Berwanger >>Subject: A Request on the Authors's list in ebMS 1.1 >> >>Folks, >> >>I just noticed the list of author's has changed. I think that is >> > great. > >>Arvola's contributions to 1.1 version are invaluable. However, I think >>it is only fair that all the authors are acknowledged. Dick Brooks and >>myself have written the transport bindings section of the 1.0 >>specification. I was also the owner of the SyncReply module. All these >>are mostly intact in the 1.1 version. I am listing below some of the >>pertinent email messages and the corresponding attachments here with >> > for > >>your reference. >> >>Thanks, Prasad >> >>-------- Original Message -------- >>Subject: HTTP Bindings latest draft >>Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:23:19 -0800 >>From: Prasad Yendluri <pyendluri@webmethods.com> >>To: pyendluri@webmethods.com >>CC: christopher ferris <chris.ferris@east.sun.com>,Dick Brooks >><dick@8760.com>, "ian.c.jones@bt.com" <ian.c.jones@bt.com>,David >> > Fischer > >><david@drummondgroup.com>,Rik Drummond <rvd2@worldnet.att.net>,"Dale >>Moberg (E-mail)" <Dale_Moberg@stercomm.com>,"Ralph Berwanger (E-mail)" >><rberwanger@bTrade.com>,Doug Bunting <Doug@ariba.com>,"Burdett, David" >><david.burdett@commerceone.com>, marcb@webmethods.com >>References: <3A92A939.F98A9F32@east.Sun.COM> >> >>Folks, >> >>Please find attached the latest version of HTTP bindings >> > specification. > >>the updates are based on the issues list from Ian and also what Dick >>and I noted down or remember. The updates also try to address >>SOAP HTTP 500 issue. A line that states client cert based >> > authentication > >>is permitted is added but, I suspect we need more than that. So, we >>would welcome some suggestions for text there. >> >>Dick and I are going back and forth on the SMTP bindings but that one >>should go out later today or tomorrow morning. >> >>Cheers and best regards. >> >>Prasad >> >>-------- Original Message -------- >>Subject: Latest DRAFT of SMTP bindings >>Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:55:19 -0600 >>From: Dick Brooks <dick@8760.com> >>Reply-To: dick@8760.com >>To: Ebxml <ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org> >> >>Here is what Prasad and I came up with for SMTP bindings, let us know >>what >>you think. >> >>I don't have a pdf creator so I'm providing the MS word version. Maybe >>one >>of those kind individuals (maw?) >>with a pdf converter will redistribute a pdf version of the doc. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Dick Brooks >>Group 8760 >>110 12th Street North >>Birmingham, AL 35203 >>dick@8760.com >>205-250-8053 >>Fax: 205-250-8057 >>http://www.8760.com/ >> >>InsideAgent - Empowering e-commerce solutions >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>
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