RE: [ebxml-msg] Have you implemented Version 2.0 ?

[David Fischer <david@drummondgroup.com>]

Title: RE: [ebxml-msg] Have you implemented Version 2.0 ?

DGI has donated thousands of hours to ebXML over the last two years.  We are represented on five committees (two as editors and one as v1.0 Chair) all non-reimbursed.  The interoperability test ran about four months with daily conference calls and constant work on our part.  We are providing this service for very little more than cost recovery.

 

DGI is not taking advantage.  Why is this any different than someone implementing the spec and selling their product, thus taking advantage of hundreds of hours of volunteer work?  No one actually volunteers for ebXML.  Everyone has a business reason to be here.

 

Regards,

 

David Fischer

Drummond Group.

-----Original Message-----
From: Seaburg, Lisa [mailto:lisa.seaburg@commerceone.com]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:04 PM
To: ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] Have you implemented Version 2.0 ?

Excuse me, but if this is true, the fee is $35,000!  Then the Drummond group is blatantly taking advantage of the hundreds of volunteer hours put in by all the people involved.  I would like to get on my soapbox about this, but I won't today.  I will wait and see what other comments come from this email thread.

Lisa

-----Original Message-----
From: Duane Nickull [mailto:duane@xmlglobal.com]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:58 AM
To: Patrick Yee
Cc: Cliff Collins; ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] Have you implemented Version 2.0 ?

The stated charge is a bit steep at $35,000 a pop.

Duane

Patrick Yee wrote:
>
> Excuse me, I want to ask a side track question.
> What is the charge to have the messaging implementation to be tested by the
> Drummond Group? Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> -Patrick
> --
> Patrick Yee
> System Architect
> Center for E-Commerce Infrastructure Development (CECID)
> Dept. of Computer Science and Information Systems
> The University of Hong Kong
> Tel: (852) 22415674
> Fax: (852) 25474611
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cliff Collins" <collinsc@sybase.com>
> To: <ian.c.jones@bt.com>; <ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:06 AM
> Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] Have you implemented Version 2.0 ?
>
> > Sybase has implemented Version 2.0 of the specification.  Our
> > product is also part of the interoperability test that
> > is being run by the Drummond Group.
> >
> > Cliff
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ian.c.jones@bt.com [mailto:ian.c.jones@bt.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 9:47 AM
> > > To: ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > Subject: [ebxml-msg] Have you implemented Version 2.0 ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Implementers
> > >
> > > As I only have a couple of outstanding non returned ballots the
> > > specification looks likely to pass I need confirmation that the
> > > specification has been implemented and does work as we have specified
> for
> > > the submission process.  I would like this to be open so please post an
> > > e-mail to the list confirming you have successfully implemented
> > > Version 2.0
> > > of the message services.  This is NOT a product announcement only that
> you
> > > have implemented and tested it internally.  If you do not want this
> public
> > > please e-mail me direct and only the number of implantation will be made
> > > public.
> > >
> > > Ian Jones
> > > Chair OASIS ebXML Messaging Services TC
> > >
> > > Tel:  +44 (0)29 2072 4063
> > > Fax: +44 (0)29 2072 4137
> > > Email: ian.c.jones@bt.com
> > >
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