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Subject: [ebxml-msg] FW: [ebxml-cppa] IBM patent disclosure

We need to seriously consider whether we require CPPA in Messaging.  If IBM
requires a license to use CPPA, that could easily transfer to Messaging based
upon this requirement.


David Fischer
Drummond Group.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Fischer [mailto:david@drummondgroup.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:45 AM
To: ebxml-cppa@lists.oasis-open.org
Cc: Rik Drummond
Subject: RE: [ebxml-cppa] IBM patent disclosure

I logged on this morning to vote yes on the specification.  Now I am going to

I gather that the very existence of this technology is what IBM claims and there
is nothing we can change in the specification to obviate IBMs claim -- they
claim the whole document even though they had a minor role in developing it.

IBM is going to require anyone who uses CPPA to obtain a license?  This makes
IBM the owner of CPPA!  Marty has assured us that the cost will be zero, yet IBM
is not willing to make this assurance in writing.  Rest assured then, the cost
will not always be zero.


David Fischer
Drummond Group.

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin W Sachs [mailto:mwsachs@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 6:09 PM
To: ebxml-cppa@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [ebxml-cppa] IBM patent disclosure

Regarding the question in the minutes of whether someone must apply for a
license for the IBM patents, I have checked on the answer.  The answer is
yes.  If a company believes that their CPPA implementation may be covered
by the IBM patents, the procedure is to apply to IBM for a license.  There
will be no fee for the license.



Martin W. Sachs
IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
P. O. B. 704
Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
----- Forwarded by Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM on 04/19/2002 07:03 PM -----

                      Peter Ogden
                      <pogden@cycloneco        To:       "ebXML-CPPA (E-mail)"
                      mmerce.com>              cc:
                                               Subject:  [ebxml-cppa] CPPA
conference call minutes - 2002/04/19
                      04/19/2002 06:30

Here are my notes  from today's conference call. Please advise if any
corrections are  needed.


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