Re: [ebxml-msg] Question about imprementation of MS specification toreal business

[Yukinori Saito <y-saito@ecom.jp>]

Dear Marty,
Sorry for my insufficient description.

(1) Position of Kasumi Co. Ltd.
-Kasumi is a user of this system. The role of Kasumi is Buyer as a Retail.
-Both Kasumi and Xecelon Japan developed EDI system based on ebXML MS for
the B2B system of Kasumi.
 The position of Excelon Japan is SI (System Integration) vendor to Kasumi's
system.

(2) Position of NEC corporation
-NEC developed EDI system based on ebXML MS for Seller side (Maker side).
And NEC provided the software to some companies of Seller side.

(3) Kasumi's B2B Project
-Plural companies have developed this EDI system based on ebXML MS
specification.
-In order to make consensus about this system, there is working group named
'Kasumi's B2B Project' The participants of this project are users of this
system and concerning SI vendors.

(4) Companies using this EDI system
-Now, 4 companies are doing real business using this Kasumi's system. One
company is Kasumi as a buyer side. There are 3 companies as seller side. The
name of companies of Seller side are confidential now.

Regards,
Yukinori Saito


----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin W Sachs" <mwsachs@us.ibm.com>
To: "Yukinori Saito" <y-saito@ecom.jp>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] Question about imprementation of MS specification
to real business



Yukinori,

Your email mentions both Kasumi Co. and NEC.  Is Kasumi part of NEC?  If
not, which company actually developed the ebXML MSG implementation? Is
Kasumi using the NEC implementation?

Regards,
Marty

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                      Yukinori Saito
                      <y-saito@ecom.jp>        To:
ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
                                               cc:       NEC\)伊波様
<m-iha@ak.jp.nec.com>, "EDIgr)H.Sugamata"
                      05/14/2002 01:59          <sugamata@ecom.or.jp>,
"EDIgr)K.Mizoguchi" <mizoguchi@ecom.or.jp>,
                      AM                        "EDIgr)K.Wakaizumi"
<waka@ecom.or.jp>
                                               Subject:  [ebxml-msg]
Question about imprementation of MS specification to
                                                real business






Dear Members of OASIS ebXML Messaging TC,

Kasumi Co. Ltd. in Japan developed B2B system based on ebXML MS
specification V1.0.
The outline of this system is followings.
(1) This system is EDI system between Retail and Maker.
(2) This system is developed by NEC corporation. NEC corporation is very
famous IT vendor company in Japan.
(3) Business documents
-Retail: Purchase Order Prediction, Sales Information
-Maker: Products Information, Sales Promotion Information, Sales Results
(4) Reasons to adopt ebXML MS specification
-This project recognized that ebXML will become an international standard.
-GCI (Global Commerce Initiative) announced that GCI will adopt ebXML
specification.
(5) Scope of adoption of MS specification in this system
-This system avoided vague part of MS specification V1.0. As a result, this
system adopted same parts that is equivalent to  Core Extension of ebXML MS
V2.0. The engineer of NEC corporation says it is appropriate that the MS
V2.0 specification is divided to Core Extension and Options.
-Adopted asynchronous communication method to have flexibility of messaging
handling.
-Devised and designed error handling procedures about errors of payloads.
(6) Next step
-Studying to upgrade to MS V2.0.
-Studying to adopt CPA. Because there is close relationship between MS
specification and CPPA specification.
But the designer is thinking that there is no need to adopt CPP, because
they know all companies very much each other. This system will develop one
common CPA in these EDI system.
(7) This system is actually operating now as real business. This system has
started real operation from November 2001. This system is the first case
that adopted ebXML MS specification to real business in Japan and in Asia
region.

Questions,
Does anyone has some information about following point?
-Is this system the first case that adopted MS specification to real
business in the world?
-If anyone has some information that some companies or industries adopted
MS
specification in real business in West countries, please let me know.
-If anyone has information about these, please let me know.

Best Regards,
Yukinori Saito
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Yukinori Saito
Electronic Commerce Promotion Council of Japan (ECOM)
E-mail: y-saito@ecom.jp
Tel: +81-3-3436-7542    Fax: +81-3-3436-7570
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